From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Asias He <asias.hejun@gmail.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
Prasad Joshi <prasadjoshi124@gmail.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/31] Implement user mode network for kvm tools
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:30:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110702103047.GF17482@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1309599956.21962.23.camel@jaguar>
* Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 15:46 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > > That's pretty impressive (if it does not come at the expensive of
> > > features that Qemu's slirp code has) - and the thing is that we don't
> > > actually have to implement the vast majority of TCP-IP features,
> > > because the transport between the guest and the host is obviously
> > > reliable.
> >
> > I don't see how it would. Once you overrun device buffers, you have to
> > do something. Either you drop packets or you stall the guest. I'd
> > usually prefer the former :).
>
> If we make the buffers large enough, will this matter in practice?
>
> > > This patch-set turned out to be a *lot* more simple than i first
> > > thought it would end up.
> > >
> > > Simpler also means potentially faster and potentially more secure.
> > >
> > > ( The lack of ipv6 is not something we should worry about too much,
> > > ipv4 should scale up to a couple of hundred thousand virtual
> > > machines per box, right? )
> >
> > Well, if the system you're trying to connect to supports ipv4,
> > sure. If it doesn't, tough luck :).
>
> Does that mean that the guests would effectively be ipv4-only?
> That'd be unfortunate.
The guest will effectively be NAT-ed anyway, with it on a private
network in essence (where the DHCP server gives a dynamic IP), so it
does not matter at all whether it's using ipv4 or ipv6 for its NAT
connectivity.
ipv6 might matter for TUN-ed connections, where the guest might be
visible externally as well.
Unless i'm missing some important ipv6 usecase.
Also, is there any fundamental reason why ipv6 packets couldnt be
recognized with time? So if there's demand, it could be added.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-02 10:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-30 8:40 [PATCH v2 00/31] Implement user mode network for kvm tools Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/31] kvm tools: Introduce ethernet frame buffer system for uip Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/31] kvm tools: Add ARP support " Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/31] kvm tools: Add IPV4 " Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/31] kvm tools: Implement IP checksum " Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/31] kvm tools: Add ICMP support " Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/31] kvm tools: Introduce struct uip_udp to present UDP package Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/31] kvm tools: Introduce struct uip_pseudo_hdr to present UDP pseudo header Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/31] kvm tools: Introduce struct uip_udp_socket Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/31] kvm tools: Add two helpers to return UDP {header, total} length Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/31] kvm tools: Add helper to return ethernet header length Asias He
2011-06-30 8:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/31] kvm tools: Implement uip_csum_udp() to calculate UDP checksum Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 12/31] kvm tools: Add UDP support for uip Asias He
2011-07-01 11:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 15:24 ` Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 13/31] kvm tools: Introduce struct uip_tcp to present TCP package Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 14/31] kvm tools: Introduce struct uip_tcp_socket Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 15/31] kvm tools: Add helpers to return TCP {header, total, payload} length Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 16/31] kvm tools: Add helper to return start address of TCP payload Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 17/31] kvm tools: Add helpers to test whether SYN or FIN bit is set Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 18/31] kvm tools: Add helper to allocate and get TCP initial sequence number Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 19/31] kvm tools: Implement uip_csum_tcp() to calculate TCP checksum Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 20/31] kvm tools: Add TCP support for uip Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 21/31] kvm tools: Introduce uip_init() " Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 22/31] kvm tools: Introduce uip_tx() " Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 23/31] kvm tools: Introduce uip_rx() " Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 24/31] kvm tools: Add MACRO for user and tap mode for virtio net Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 25/31] kvm tools: Reanme net_device to net_dev Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 26/31] kvm tools: Introduce -net {user, tap, none} options for virtio net Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 27/31] kvm tools: Change default guest MAC address to 00:15:15:15:15:15 Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 28/31] kvm tools: Make virtio net work with user mode network Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 29/31] kvm tools: Make default network mode to user mode Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 30/31] kvm tools: Make default host ip address to 192.168.33.1 Asias He
2011-06-30 8:41 ` [PATCH v2 31/31] kvm tools: Introduce struct net_dev_operations Asias He
2011-06-30 8:56 ` [PATCH v2 00/31] Implement user mode network for kvm tools Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-30 15:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-01 0:18 ` Asias He
2011-07-01 11:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 13:46 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-02 9:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-02 10:30 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-07-02 11:19 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-02 11:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-02 12:31 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-03 19:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-03 22:15 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-04 9:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-04 9:30 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-04 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-02 9:42 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-06-30 23:38 ` Asias He
2011-07-01 16:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-01 20:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-02 3:49 ` Asias He
2011-07-02 9:02 ` Ingo Molnar
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