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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, avi@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, gorcunov@gmail.com, levinsasha928@gmail.com,
	asias.hejun@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:26:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110725092656.GD28787@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLFDzSg55u92b6Qgvqn1yjaShYG_Bgdkzy19aBrzxo7FqA@mail.gmail.com>


* Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org> wrote:

> [ I thought the 'native Linux' part in 'native Linux KVM tool' was 
> a dead giveaway, really. ]
> 
> Now if people want to support other operating systems, that's cool 
> and I'm happy to help out where I can. But I don't understand why 
> people keep bringing non-Linux OSs as an argument for not merging 
> tools/kvm into the Linux kernel tree. I mean really, did someone 
> actually expect that a Linux kernel developer spends his weekends 
> improving the state of Windows virtualization?
> 
> And don't get this the wrong way either, I'm not hostile against 
> other operating systems, but I simply am not interested enough in 
> them to spend my time improving them.

In fact one of the problems i see with Qemu is that Qemu had to make 
many compromises to support Windows and other weird platforms that 
i'm (and i'd claim most other Linux kernel developers) are personally 
not interested in.

So here's a 14 KLOC tools/kvm/ that does everything that i need from 
virtualization (easy testing of a bzImage before rebooting the host 
system into it), is clean, readable and hackable and is 1.5% of the 
nearly 1 MLOC Qemu code base.

The whole tools/kvm/ code base is (much) smaller than Qemu's IA64 
support code for example. The size difference is startling. 

tools/kvm/ does less and in my experience does it better - is that 
such a surprising thing?

So it was a no brainer for me to pull it into -tip.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-25  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-24 20:37 [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1 Pekka Enberg
2011-07-24 23:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25  7:37   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  7:53     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  8:14       ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25  8:23         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  8:31           ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25  8:35             ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 13:10               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-25 15:05                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25  8:37             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  8:44               ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25  8:51                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  8:55                   ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25  9:16               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  9:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  8:30         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  8:37           ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25  8:47             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  9:06               ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:45                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 12:47                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 12:51                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 12:54                       ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 13:14                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 12:51                     ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 13:09                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 13:29                         ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25  9:26               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-07-25  9:42                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:21                     ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:35                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 12:24           ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-25 12:41             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 12:46               ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25  8:54         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  8:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  9:03           ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25  9:41             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  9:46               ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:28                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  9:48               ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 10:03                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:17                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 10:29                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:26             ` Olivier Galibert
2011-07-25 10:38         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 11:08           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:24             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 11:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:34               ` Olivier Galibert
2011-07-25 11:41                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 12:09           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 12:36           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 19:21             ` david
2011-07-25 18:24     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 19:43       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  7:50   ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25  8:34     ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:59     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-25 13:16       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25  1:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25  7:27   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  7:36     ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25  7:39       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  7:55       ` Sasha Levin
     [not found]       ` <CAFO3S428qqUAu19QjPxDDAVv+eJSX0MEfYp5y03znNi6XbEtTg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-25  8:11         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25  8:17           ` Pekka Enberg

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