From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
gorcunov@gmail.com, levinsasha928@gmail.com,
asias.hejun@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:29:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110725102935.GK28787@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E2D42D6.3010909@redhat.com>
* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 07/25/2011 01:03 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> > Then look at the actual drivers and interfaces within tools/kvm/.
> >> > It's using the same symbols and conventions for 'guest' and
> >> > 'host' side.
> >> >
> >> > Check out tools/kvm/hw/i8042.c and match it up with
> >> > include/linux/serio.h and drivers/input/serio/i8042.c - you can
> >> > literally walk from one side to the other and understand how
> >> > guest and host are tightly related not just functionality but
> >> > also implementation wise.
> >> >
> >> > This is how Qemu should be doing it as well btw., to ease the
> >> > debugging of host/guest interaction bugs and to ease development.
> >>
> >> No. That ties the guest and host interfaces together. [...]
> >
> > Why would it tie the interfaces together? For a guest and host
> > driver to be written in the same familiar conventions is useful
> > for debugging and development easier but does not prevent both of
> > those pieces to implement a precise interface. (Especially since
> > in the i8042 case the host driver is used with real hardware as
> > well.)
>
> The driver is under no requirement to use all of the functionality
> of the device. On the other hand, the device emulation has to be
> complete, or it risks not working with some past or future version
> of the driver, or with another OS (if you support that).
Sure, and nothing in tools/kvm/hw/i8042.c contradicts that and my
points still remain.
You can have clean, harmonic code *and* have it work to spec, agreed?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-25 10:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-24 20:37 [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1 Pekka Enberg
2011-07-24 23:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 7:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:14 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:23 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:31 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 13:10 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-25 15:05 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 8:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:44 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:51 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:55 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:37 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 9:06 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 12:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 12:51 ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 12:54 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 13:14 ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 12:51 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 13:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 13:29 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:42 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:21 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 12:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-25 12:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 8:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:03 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 9:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:46 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:48 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 10:29 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-07-25 11:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2011-07-25 10:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 11:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 11:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:34 ` Olivier Galibert
2011-07-25 11:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 12:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 19:21 ` david
2011-07-25 18:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 19:43 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:50 ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 8:34 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-25 13:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 1:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 7:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 7:39 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:55 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CAFO3S428qqUAu19QjPxDDAVv+eJSX0MEfYp5y03znNi6XbEtTg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-25 8:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:17 ` Pekka Enberg
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