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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:32:58 +0200
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* Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:08:10PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> > Fact is that developing ABIs within an integrated project is 
> > *amazingly* powerful. You should try it one day, instead of 
> > criticizing it :-)
> 
> I've been doing this long before you declare it the rosetta stone.  
> Some of the worst ABIs I know come from that kind of development, 
> e.g. all the ioctls we have in xfs, inherited from the "tightly 
> integrated" IRIX development cycle.

As i said it's not a guarantee, you can mess up even under the best 
of circumstances.

Also, arguably a filesystem is constrainted wrt. ABIs: it's just one 
filesystem which pretty much pushes it towards ioctls which in turn 
is often an unstructured breeding ground for mess.

Thanks,

	Ingo