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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] KVM: MMU: improve write flooding detected
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:47:12 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110825134712.GB4384@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E560062.40805@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 03:57:22PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> On 08/24/2011 03:09 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:32:32AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >> On 08/23/2011 08:38 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >>
> >>>> And, i think there are not problems since: if the spte without accssed bit is
> >>>> written frequently, it means the guest page table is accessed infrequently or
> >>>> during the writing, the guest page table is not accessed, in this time, zapping
> >>>> this shadow page is not bad.
> >>>
> >>> Think of the following scenario:
> >>>
> >>> 1) page fault, spte with accessed bit is created from gpte at gfnA+indexA.
> >>> 2) write to gfnA+indexA, spte has accessed bit set, write_flooding_count
> >>> is not increased.
> >>> 3) repeat
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think the result is just we hoped, we do not want to zap the shadow page
> >> because the spte is currently used by the guest, it also will be used in the
> >> next repetition. So do not increase 'write_flooding_count' is a good choice.
> > 
> > Its not used. Step 2) is write to write protected shadow page at
> > gfnA.
> > 
> >> Let's consider what will happen if we increase 'write_flooding_count':
> >> 1: after three repetitions, zap the shadow page
> >> 2: in step 1, we will alloc a new shadow page for gpte at gfnA+indexA
> >> 3: in step 2, the flooding count is creased, so after 3 repetitions, the
> >>    shadow page can be zapped again, repeat 1 to 3.
> > 
> > The shadow page will not be zapped because the spte created from
> > gfnA+indexA has the accessed bit set:
> > 
> >        if (spte && !(*spte & shadow_accessed_mask))
> >                sp->write_flooding_count++;
> >        else
> >                sp->write_flooding_count = 0;
> > 
> 
> Marcelo, i am still confused with your example, in step 3), what is repeated?
> it repeats step 2) or it repeats step 1) and 2)?
> 
> Only step 2) is repeated i guess, right? if it is yes, it works well:
> when the guest writes gpte, the spte of corresponding shadow page is zapped
> (level > 1) or it is speculatively fetched(level == 1), the accessed bit is
> cleared in both case.

Right.

> the later write can detect that the accessed bit is not set, and write_flooding_count
> is increased. finally, the shadow page is zapped, the gpte is written directly.
> 
> >> The result is the shadow page for gfnA is alloced and zapped again and again,
> >> yes?
> > 
> > The point is you cannot rely on the accessed bit of sptes that have been
> > instantiated with the accessed bit set to decide whether or not to zap.
> > Because the accessed bit will only be cleared on host memory pressure.
> > 
> 
> But the accessed bit is also cleared after spte is written.

Right. But only one of the 512 sptes. Worst case, a shadow that has 1
spte with accessed bit at every 3 spte entries would not be zapped for a
linear write of the entire guest pagetable. The current heuristic does 
not suffer from this issue.

I guess it is OK to be more trigger happy with zapping by ignoring
the accessed bit, clearing the flood counter on page fault.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-25 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-16  6:40 [PATCH 01/11] KVM: MMU: avoid pte_list_desc running out in kvm_mmu_pte_write Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] KVM: x86: tag the instructions which are used to write page table Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-22 14:32   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-22 14:36     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-16  6:42 ` [PATCH 03/11] KVM: x86: retry non-page-table writing instruction Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-22 19:59   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-22 20:21     ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-22 20:42       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-16  6:42 ` [PATCH 04/11] KVM: x86: cleanup port-in/port-out emulated Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:43 ` [PATCH 05/11] KVM: MMU: do not mark access bit on pte write path Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:44 ` [PATCH 06/11] KVM: MMU: cleanup FNAME(invlpg) Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:44 ` [PATCH 07/11] KVM: MMU: fast prefetch spte on invlpg path Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-22 22:28   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-23  1:50     ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:45 ` [PATCH 08/11] KVM: MMU: remove unnecessary kvm_mmu_free_some_pages Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:45 ` [PATCH 09/11] KVM: MMU: split kvm_mmu_pte_write function Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:46 ` [PATCH 10/11] KVM: MMU: fix detecting misaligned accessed Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-16  6:46 ` [PATCH 11/11] KVM: MMU: improve write flooding detected Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-23  8:00   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-23 10:55     ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-23 12:38       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-23 16:32         ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-23 19:09           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-23 20:16             ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-24 20:05               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-25  2:04                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-25  4:42                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-25 13:21                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-25 14:06                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-25 14:07                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-25  7:40                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-25  7:57             ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-25 13:47               ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2011-08-26  3:18                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-08-26 10:53                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-08-26 14:24                     ` Xiao Guangrong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-26 11:24 [PATCH 0/11] KVM: x86: optimize for guest page written Xiao Guangrong
2011-07-26 11:32 ` [PATCH 11/11] KVM: MMU: improve write flooding detected Xiao Guangrong
2011-07-27  9:23   ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-27 10:20     ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-07-27 11:08       ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-28  2:43         ` Xiao Guangrong

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