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From: Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@dlh.net>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, David Cure <kvm@cure.nom.fr>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: performance trouble
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:11:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201203262211.44284.vrozenfe@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F70BB7A.7080808@dlh.net>

On Monday, March 26, 2012 08:54:50 PM Peter Lieven wrote:
> On 26.03.2012 20:36, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote:
> > On Monday, March 26, 2012 07:52:49 PM Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 07:46:03PM +0200, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote:
> >>> On Monday, March 26, 2012 07:00:32 PM Peter Lieven wrote:
> >>>> On 22.03.2012 10:38, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:52:42 AM Peter Lieven wrote:
> >>>>>> On 22.03.2012 09:48, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 09:53:45 AM Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 06:31:02PM +0100, Peter Lieven wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 21.03.2012 12:10, David Cure wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> 		hello,
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Le Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 02:38:22PM +0200, Gleb Natapov ecrivait :
> >>>>>>>>>>> Try to add<feature policy='disable' name='hypervisor'/>     to
> >>>>>>>>>>> cpu definition in XML and check command line.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 	ok I try this but I can't use<cpu model>     to map the host
> >>>>>>>>>> 	cpu
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> (my libvirt is 0.9.8) so I use :
> >>>>>>>>>>      <cpu match='exact'>
> >>>>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>>>        <model>Opteron_G3</model>
> >>>>>>>>>>        <feature policy='disable' name='hypervisor'/>
> >>>>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>>>      </cpu>
> >>>>>>>>>> 	
> >>>>>>>>>> 	(the physical server use Opteron CPU).
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 	The log is here :
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.roullier.net/Report/report-3.2-vhost-net-1vcpu-cpu.tx
> >>>>>>>>>> t.gz
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 	And now with only 1 vcpu, the response time is 8.5s, great
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> improvment. We keep this configuration for production : we check
> >>>>>>>>>> the response time when some other users are connected.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> please keep in mind, that setting -hypervisor, disabling hpet and
> >>>>>>>>> only one vcpu
> >>>>>>>>> makes windows use tsc as clocksource. you have to make sure, that
> >>>>>>>>> your vm is not switching between physical sockets on your system
> >>>>>>>>> and that you have constant_tsc feature to have a stable tsc
> >>>>>>>>> between the cores in the same socket. its also likely that the
> >>>>>>>>> vm will crash when live migrated.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> All true. I asked to try -hypervisor only to verify where we loose
> >>>>>>>> performance. Since you get good result with it frequent access to
> >>>>>>>> PM timer is probably the reason. I do not recommend using
> >>>>>>>> -hypervisor for production!
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> @gleb: do you know whats the state of in-kernel hyper-v timers?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Vadim is working on it. I'll let him answer.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It would be nice to have synthetic timers supported. But,  at the
> >>>>>>> moment, I'm only researching  this feature.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So it will take months at least?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I would say weeks.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Is there a way, we could contribute and help you with this?
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Peter,
> >>> You are welcome to add  an appropriate handler.
> >> 
> >> I think Vadim refers to this HV MSR
> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff542633%28v=vs
> >> .85 %29.aspx
> > 
> > This one is pretty simple to support. Please see attachments for more
> > details. I was thinking about synthetic  timers
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-
> > us/library/windows/hardware/ff542758(v=vs.85).aspx
> 
> is this what microsoft qpc uses as clocksource in hyper-v?
Yes, it should be enough for Win7 / W2K8R2.  
Cheers,
Vadim.
> i will check tomorrow.
> 
> thanks
> vadim
> 
> >> --
> >> 
> >> 			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-26 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-23  8:28 performance trouble David Cure
2012-01-23 10:04 ` David Cure
2012-01-30 15:36 ` David Cure
2012-01-30 16:20   ` Brian Jackson
2012-01-30 16:51     ` David Cure
2012-01-30 17:21       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-31 17:15         ` David Cure
2012-01-31 17:21           ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-02 10:41             ` David Cure
2012-02-03  8:59               ` David Cure
2012-02-05  9:38                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-10 10:09                   ` David Cure
2012-02-14 13:32                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-14 13:40                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-16  8:55                         ` David Cure
2012-02-16  9:01                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-17  8:59                             ` David Cure
2012-02-17 10:07                               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-17 14:01                                 ` David Cure
2012-02-19  9:13                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-22 16:33                                     ` David Cure
2012-02-22 16:58                                       ` David Cure
2012-02-23  8:38                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-16 10:13                                         ` David Cure
2012-03-19 10:51                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-20  9:32                                             ` David Cure
2012-03-20  9:45                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-20 11:18                                                 ` David Cure
2012-03-20 12:38                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-21 11:10                                                     ` David Cure
2012-03-21 17:31                                                       ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-22  7:53                                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22  7:57                                                           ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-22  8:35                                                             ` David Cure
2012-03-22  8:33                                                           ` David Cure
2012-03-22  8:50                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-22  8:48                                                           ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-22  8:52                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-22  9:38                                                               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-26 17:00                                                                 ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-26 17:46                                                                   ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-26 17:52                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 18:36                                                                       ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-26 18:54                                                                         ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-26 20:11                                                                           ` Vadim Rozenfeld [this message]
2012-03-27  8:56                                                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-27  9:23                                                                               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-27  9:24                                                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-27  9:26                                                                                 ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 10:00                                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-27 12:20                                                                                     ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 12:26                                                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-27 12:28                                                                                         ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 12:29                                                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-27 12:30                                                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 14:06                                                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 15:44                                                                                               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-27 15:58                                                                                                 ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 16:12                                                                                                   ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-27 16:16                                                                                                     ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 17:06                                                                                                       ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-28  8:38                                                                                                         ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 10:40                                                                                   ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-27 10:49                                                                                     ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 11:43                                                                                       ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-27 14:44                                                                                         ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 15:37                                                                                           ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-27 15:39                                                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2012-03-27 15:55                                                                                               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-03-22  8:31                                                         ` David Cure
2012-03-22  8:47                                                           ` Peter Lieven
2012-02-14 13:48                       ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-02-16  9:10                         ` David Cure
2012-02-17 15:27                         ` David Cure

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