From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] use jump labels to streamline common APIC configuration
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:44:17 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814144417.GQ11194@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <502A5CFD.8080604@siemens.com>
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 04:13:17PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-08-14 16:07, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 05:04:16PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 08/14/2012 05:00 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> The host can prevent this by leaving disabling the guest pmu. But
> >>>>> disabling jump labels for real-time kernels may be acceptable too. We
> >>>>> can probably to it at run time by forcing the slow path at all times.
> >>>> Yes, it is possible to add module option that will force slow path if
> >>>> needed.
> >>>
> >>> Should I write a patch or will you? Having host-side stop_machine due to
> >>> such common guest operations is indeed a no-go for RT.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Note that an additional patch is needed for perf, otherwise the guest
> >> (or a user, but that's less of a concern for realtime) can easily invoke
> >> stop_machine by configuring and unconfiguring its pmu.
> >>
> >>
> > Are we talking about malicious guests? Why not compile kernel with jump
> > label disabled if this is serious concern?
>
> Because jump labels are still useful for other purposes (e.g. tracing) -
> provided you don't use them while a critical operation is running. It's
> cumbersome to require static configuration, specifically given that we
> could easily control dynamically it at KVM level.
>
I am not against parameter. I just think you are fighting uphill battle.
jump-label is not trace only thing. Their use expect to grow in kernel
and those that this patchset adds are not the first that can be triggered
by regular user. BTW there is work to make patching without calling
stop_machine().
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-14 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-05 12:58 [PATCH 0/8] use jump labels to streamline common APIC configuration Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 1/8] KVM: clean up kvm_(set|get)_apic_base Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 2/8] KVM: use kvm_lapic_set_base() to change apic_base Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 3/8] KVM: mark apic enabled on start up Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:14 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:17 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 4/8] Export jump_label_rate_limit() Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 12:37 ` Jason Baron
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 5/8] KVM: use jump label to optimize checking for HW enabled APIC in APIC_BASE MSR Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 6/8] KVM: use jump label to optimize checking for SW enabled apic in spurious interrupt register Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 7/8] KVM: use jump label to optimize checking for in kernel local apic presence Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 8/8] KVM: inline kvm_apic_present() and kvm_lapic_enabled() Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 13:33 ` [PATCH 0/8] use jump labels to streamline common APIC configuration Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 13:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 13:42 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 13:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 16:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 17:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 14:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:44 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-08-14 15:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-05 19:30 ` Eric Northup
2012-08-06 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 8:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-06 13:23 ` Avi Kivity
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