From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: avi@redhat.com, gleb@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] kvm: level irqfd support
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:22:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120815192224.GB5670@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1345052191.4683.435.camel@ul30vt.home>
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:36:31AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-08-15 at 17:28 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 04:37:08PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > v8:
> > >
> > > Trying a new approach. Nobody seems to like the internal IRQ
> > > source ID object and the interactions it implies between irqfd
> > > and eoifd, so let's get rid of it. Instead, simply expose
> > > IRQ source IDs to userspace. This lets the user be in charge
> > > of freeing them or hanging onto a source ID for later use.
> >
> > In the end it turns out source ID is an optimization for shared
> > interrupts, isn't it? Can't we apply the optimization transparently to
> > the user? E.g. if we have some spare source IDs, allocate them, if we
> > run out, use a shared source ID?
>
> Let's think about shared source IDs a bit more. I think it's wrong that
> irqfd uses KVM_USERSPACE_IRQ_SOURCE_ID, but I'm questioning whether all
> irqfd users can share a source ID. We do not get the logical OR of all
> users by putting them on the same source ID, we get "last set wins".
> KVM_USERSPACE_IRQ_SOURCE_ID is used for multiple inputs because the
> logical OR happens in userspace. How would we not starve a user if we
> define KVM_IRQFD_SOURCE_ID? What am I missing?
That all irqfds are deasserted on EOI anyway. So there's no point
to do a logical OR.
>
> So I'm inclined to say source IDs are a requirement for shared
> interrupts.
Can yo show a specific example that breaks?
I don't think it can exist.
> That means the re-use scheme becomes complicated (ex. we
> run out of IRQ source IDs, so we start looking for sharing by re-using a
> source ID used by a different GSI). Do we want to do that in kernel or
> userspace? This series allows userspace to deal with that complexity.
> Please let me know if I'm thinking incorrectly about source ID re-use.
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
I think there is a misunderstanding.
All deassert on ack irqfds can share a source ID.
This is why I am now thinking deassert on ack behaviour
should be set when irqfd is assigned.
>
> > > They
> > > can also detach and re-attach components at will. It also opens
> > > up the possibility that userspace might want to use each IRQ
> > > source ID for more than one GSI (and avoids the kernel needing
> > > to manage that). Per suggestions, EOIFD is now IRQ_ACKFD.
> > >
> > > I really wanted to add a de-assert-only option to irqfd so the
> > > irq_ackfd could be fed directly into an irqfd, but I'm dependent
> > > on the ordering of de-assert _then_ signal an eventfd. Keeping
> > > that ordering doesn't seem to be possible, especially since irqfd
> > > uses a workqueue, if I attempt to make that connection. Thanks,
> > >
> > > Alex
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Alex Williamson (6):
> > > kvm: Add de-assert option to KVM_IRQ_ACKFD
> > > kvm: KVM_IRQ_ACKFD
> > > kvm: Add assert-only option to KVM_IRQFD
> > > kvm: Add IRQ source ID option to KVM_IRQFD
> > > kvm: Expose IRQ source IDs to userspace
> > > kvm: Allow filtering of acked irqs
> > >
> > >
> > > Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt | 53 ++++++
> > > arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig | 1
> > > arch/x86/kvm/i8254.c | 1
> > > arch/x86/kvm/i8259.c | 8 +
> > > arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 8 +
> > > include/linux/kvm.h | 39 ++++-
> > > include/linux/kvm_host.h | 18 ++
> > > virt/kvm/Kconfig | 3
> > > virt/kvm/assigned-dev.c | 1
> > > virt/kvm/eventfd.c | 315 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > virt/kvm/ioapic.c | 5 -
> > > virt/kvm/irq_comm.c | 28 +++
> > > virt/kvm/kvm_main.c | 26 +++
> > > 13 files changed, 496 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-15 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-10 22:37 [PATCH v8 0/6] kvm: level irqfd support Alex Williamson
2012-08-10 22:37 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] kvm: Allow filtering of acked irqs Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 12:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 16:47 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 19:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-10 22:37 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] kvm: Expose IRQ source IDs to userspace Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 12:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 17:05 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-10 22:37 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] kvm: Add IRQ source ID option to KVM_IRQFD Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 13:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 17:08 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-10 22:37 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] kvm: Add assert-only " Alex Williamson
2012-08-10 22:37 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] kvm: KVM_IRQ_ACKFD Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 14:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 17:17 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-10 22:37 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] kvm: Add de-assert option to KVM_IRQ_ACKFD Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 14:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 17:24 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 14:28 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] kvm: level irqfd support Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 17:36 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 19:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-08-15 19:59 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-16 12:34 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-16 12:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-16 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-16 16:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-16 16:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-16 16:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-16 16:54 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-16 17:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-16 16:37 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-16 16:32 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-16 16:45 ` Alex Williamson
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