From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "KVM devel mailing list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
"Alon Levy" <alevy@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: KVM call minutes 2013-01-29 - Port I/O
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:31:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130130123156.GA406@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_R2SnZ0aOaxFyavSEaq=RDMgWj5V53dAtn+yFEUvEj_g@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:48:14AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 30 January 2013 11:39, Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
> > Proposal by hpoussin was to move _list_add() code to ISADevice:
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-01/msg00508.html
> >
> > Concerns:
> > * PCI devices (VGA, QXL) register I/O ports as well
> > => above patches add dependency on ISABus to machines
> > -> "<benh> no mac ever had one"
> > => PCIDevice shouldn't use ISA API with NULL ISADevice
> > * Lack of avi: Who decides about memory API these days?
> >
> > armbru and agraf concluded that moving this into ISA is wrong.
> >
> > => I will drop the remaining ioport patches from above series.
> >
> > Suggestions on how to proceed with tackling the issue are welcome.
>
> How does this stuff work on real hardware? I would have
> expected that a PCI device registering the fact it has
> IO ports would have to do so via the PCI controller it
> is plugged into...
All programming is done by the OS, devices do not register
with controller.
Each bridge has two ways to claim an IO transaction:
- transaction is within the window programmed in the bridge
- subtractive decoding enabled and no one else claims the transaction
At the bus level, transaction happens on a bus and an appropriate device
will claim it.
> My naive don't-know-much-about-portio suggestion is that this
> should work the same way as memory regions: each device
> provides portio regions, and the controller for the bus
> (ISA or PCI) exposes those to the next layer up, and
> something at board level maps it all into the right places.
>
> -- PMM
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-30 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-29 15:41 KVM call minutes 2013-01-29 Juan Quintela
2013-01-29 16:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-29 16:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-29 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-29 20:53 ` Alexander Graf
2013-01-29 21:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 7:02 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? (was: KVM call minutes 2013-01-29) Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 8:39 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 10:36 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? (was: KVM call minutes 2013-01-29) Peter Maydell
2013-01-30 12:35 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 13:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-30 17:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-31 18:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes 2013-01-29 - Port I/O Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 11:48 ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-30 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-01-30 13:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 14:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 12:32 ` Alexander Graf
2013-01-30 13:09 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 17:55 ` Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 20:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 20:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 20:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 13:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 21:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 21:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 21:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 22:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 22:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 22:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 23:28 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 10:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 16:34 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 21:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 21:21 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 22:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 21:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-31 22:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 23:25 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 21:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-31 22:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 15:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2013-01-30 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 16:54 ` Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 17:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 20:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 20:19 ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-30 20:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 17:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-30 21:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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