From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Wolf <mjw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, gleb@redhat.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, glommer@parallels.com,
mingo@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Alter steal-time reporting in the guest
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:11:04 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130219011104.GA5785@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hyYO7s2u-dRLExA1=TxD00O1XyPe9qFwnODrWi_p92Jqg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 05:43:47PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 2013/2/5 Michael Wolf <mjw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>:
> > In the case of where you have a system that is running in a
> > capped or overcommitted environment the user may see steal time
> > being reported in accounting tools such as top or vmstat. This can
> > cause confusion for the end user.
>
> Sorry, I'm no expert in this area. But I don't really understand what
> is confusing for the end user here.
I suppose that what is wanted is to subtract stolen time due to 'known
reasons' from steal time reporting. 'Known reasons' being, for example,
hard caps. So a vcpu executing instructions with no halt, but limited to
80% of available bandwidth, would not have 20% of stolen time reported.
But yes, a description of the scenario that is being dealt with, with
details, is important.
> > To ease the confusion this patch set
> > adds the idea of consigned (expected steal) time. The host will separate
> > the consigned time from the steal time. Tthe steal time will only be altered
> > if hard limits (cfs bandwidth control) is used. The period and the quota used
> > to separate the consigned time (expected steal) from the steal time are taken
> > from the cfs bandwidth control settings. Any other steal time accruing during
> > that period will show as the traditional steal time.
>
> I'm also a bit confused here. steal time will then only account the
> cpu time lost due to quotas from cfs bandwidth control? Also what do
> you exactly mean by "expected steal time"? Is it steal time due to
> overcommitting minus scheduler quotas?
>
> Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-19 1:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-05 21:49 [PATCH 0/4] Alter steal-time reporting in the guest Michael Wolf
2013-02-05 21:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] Alter the amount of steal time reported by " Michael Wolf
2013-02-05 21:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] Expand the steal time msr to also contain the consigned time Michael Wolf
2013-02-06 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2013-02-07 14:25 ` Michael Wolf
2013-02-05 21:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] Add the code to send the consigned time from the host to the guest Michael Wolf
2013-02-06 21:18 ` Rik van Riel
2013-02-07 14:26 ` Michael Wolf
2013-02-05 21:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add a timer to allow the separation of consigned from steal time Michael Wolf
2013-02-06 14:36 ` Glauber Costa
2013-02-06 18:07 ` Michael Wolf
2013-02-07 8:46 ` Glauber Costa
2013-02-07 14:27 ` Michael Wolf
2013-02-18 23:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-05 20:17 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-06 1:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-18 16:43 ` [PATCH 0/4] Alter steal-time reporting in the guest Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-19 1:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-03-05 20:22 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-06 1:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-06 8:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-06 16:29 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-07 0:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-07 3:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2013-03-07 20:23 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-06 16:27 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-07 2:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-07 21:09 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-07 21:15 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-07 21:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-07 22:34 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-08 1:54 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-08 2:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-06 13:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-03-06 16:23 ` Michael Wolf
2013-03-06 13:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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