From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: "Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Zhang, Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] KVM: VMX: Add Posted Interrupt supporting
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:00:22 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130225140021.GC2057@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130225133419.GH21422@redhat.com>
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 03:34:19PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:13:25AM +0000, Zhang, Yang Z wrote:
> > Gleb Natapov wrote on 2013-02-25:
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:04:25AM +0000, Zhang, Yang Z wrote:
> > >> Gleb Natapov wrote on 2013-02-25:
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:42:52AM +0000, Zhang, Yang Z wrote:
> > >>>> Avi Kivity wrote on 2013-02-25:
> > >>>>> I didn't really follow, but is the root cause the need to keep track
> > >>>>> of interrupt coalescing? If so we can recommend that users use
> > >>>>> KVM_IRQ_LINE when coalescing is unneeded, and move interrupt
> > >>>>> injection with irq coalescing support to vcpu context.
> > >>>> So we can hide the capability KVM_CAP_IRQ_INJECT_STATUS when posted
> > >>> interrupt is enabled to force users doesn't to use
> > >>> KVM_IRQ_LINE_STATUS. Does this acceptable?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The only case in KVM that need to know the interrupt injection status is
> > > vlapic
> > >>> timer. But since vlapic timer and vcpu are always in same pcpu, so there is no
> > >>> problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>> Not really. The primary user of this interface is RTC interrupt
> > >>> re-injection for Windows guests.
> > >> So without KVM_IRQ_LINE_STATUS capability, RTC cannot work well?
> > >>
> > > Windows guests may experience timedrift under CPU overcommit scenario.
> > Ok, I see. Seems we are stuck. :(
> > Do you have any suggestion to solve or workaround current problem?
> >
> I see a couple of possible solutions:
> 1. Do what Avi said. Make KVM_IRQ_LINE_STATUS be synchronous. Cons:
> current QEMU uses KVM_IRQ_LINE_STATUS always and it means that it
> will be slow on newer kernels
Can add a capability to QEMU and enable APICv selectively only
in newer QEMU, which can issue KVM_IRQ_LINE_STATUS on target vcpu
only when necessary (and KVM_IRQ_LINE otherwise).
Even a lock serializing injection is not safe because ON bit is cleared
before XCHG(PIR, 0). Must do something heavier (such as running on
target vcpu context).
> 2. Make KVM_IRQ_LINE_STATUS report coalescing only when vcpu is not
> running during injection. This assumes that if vcpu is running and does
> not process interrupt it is guest fault and the same can happen on real
> HW too. Coalescing when vcpu is not running though is the result of CPU
> overcommit and should be reported. Cons interface definition is kind of
> murky.
> 3. Do not report KVM_IRQ_LINE_STATUS capability and move RTC to use EOI
> notifiers for interrupt reinjection. This requires us to add interface
> for reporting EOI to userspace. This is not in the scope of this
> patchset. Cons: need to introduce new interface (and the one that will
> not work on AMD BTW)
Breaks older userspace?
>
> Other ideas?
Can HW write a 'finished' bit after 6 in the reserved area? Suppose its
not a KVM-specific problem?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-25 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-22 13:42 [PATCH v4 0/2] KVM: VMX: Add Posted Interrupt supporting Yang Zhang
2013-02-22 13:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] KVM: VMX: enable acknowledge interupt on vmexit Yang Zhang
2013-02-22 13:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] KVM: VMX: Add Posted Interrupt supporting Yang Zhang
2013-02-23 13:43 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-23 14:05 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-23 14:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-23 14:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-23 15:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-23 17:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-23 19:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-23 19:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-23 19:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-24 13:55 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-24 14:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-24 14:26 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-24 14:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-24 18:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-24 18:59 ` Avi Kivity
2013-02-25 8:42 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-25 11:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-25 11:04 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-25 11:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-25 11:13 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-25 12:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-25 12:52 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-25 13:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-25 14:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-02-25 14:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-25 17:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-25 22:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-25 16:50 ` Avi Kivity
2013-02-25 17:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-25 18:56 ` Avi Kivity
2013-02-25 19:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-26 8:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-02-26 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2013-02-24 17:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-25 7:24 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-23 14:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-23 15:16 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-23 16:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-24 13:17 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-24 17:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-25 6:55 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2013-02-25 13:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-02-25 14:32 ` Zhang, Yang Z
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