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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa_takuya_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: MMU: Mark sp mmio cached when creating mmio spte
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:39:53 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130314023953.GB18111@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130314112641.e2ccbc6b.yoshikawa_takuya_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:26:41AM +0900, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:58:21 -0300
> Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > In zap_spte, don't we need to search the pointer to be removed from the
> > > > global mmio-rmap list?  How long can that list be?
> > > 
> > > It is not bad. On softmmu, the rmap list has already been long more than 300.
> > > On hardmmu, normally the mmio spte is not frequently zapped (just set not clear).
> 
> mmu_shrink() is an exception.
> 
> > > 
> > > The worst case is zap-all-mmio-spte that removes all mmio-spte. This operation
> > > can be speed up after applying my previous patch:
> > > KVM: MMU: fast drop all spte on the pte_list
> 
> My point is other code may need to care more about latency.
> 
> Zapping all mmio sptes can happen only when changing memory regions:
> not so latency severe but should be reasonably fast not to hold
> mmu_lock for a (too) long time.
> 
> Compared to that, mmu_shrink() may be called any time and adding
> more work to it should be avoided IMO.  It should return ASAP.

Good point.

> In general, we should try hard to keep ourselves from affecting
> unrelated code path for optimizing something.  The global pte
> list is something which can affect many code paths in the future.
> 
> 
> So, I'm fine with trying mmio-rmap once we can actually measure
> very long mmu_lock hold time by traversing shadow pages.
> 
> How about applying this first and then see the effect on big guests?

Works for me. Xiao?


  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-14  2:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-12  8:43 [PATCH 0/2] KVM: Optimize mmio spte zapping when creating/moving memslot Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-03-12  8:44 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: MMU: Mark sp mmio cached when creating mmio spte Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-03-13  5:06   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-13  7:28     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-03-13  7:42       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-13 12:33         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-13 12:42           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-13 13:40             ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-03-13 14:05               ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-14  1:58                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-14  2:26                   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-03-14  2:39                     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-03-14  5:36                       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-14  5:13                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-14  5:45                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-16  2:01                     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-03-12  8:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86: Optimize mmio spte zapping when creating/moving memslot Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-03-12 12:06   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-13  1:40     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-13  1:41 ` [PATCH 0/2] KVM: " Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-14  8:23 ` Gleb Natapov

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