From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KVM: MMU: improve n_max_mmu_pages calculation with TDP
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:31:12 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130322103112.GA7543@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514BC94C.8070802@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:00:28AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> On 03/21/2013 10:29 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 01:41:59PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >> On 03/21/2013 04:14 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >>>
> >>> kvm_mmu_calculate_mmu_pages numbers,
> >>>
> >>> maximum number of shadow pages = 2% of mapped guest pages
> >>>
> >>> Does not make sense for TDP guests where mapping all of guest
> >>> memory with 4k pages cannot exceed "mapped guest pages / 512"
> >>> (not counting root pages).
> >>>
> >>> Allow that maximum for TDP, forcing the guest to recycle otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> >>> index 956ca35..a9694a8d7 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> >>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> >>> @@ -4293,7 +4293,7 @@ nomem:
> >>> unsigned int kvm_mmu_calculate_mmu_pages(struct kvm *kvm)
> >>> {
> >>> unsigned int nr_mmu_pages;
> >>> - unsigned int nr_pages = 0;
> >>> + unsigned int i, nr_pages = 0;
> >>> struct kvm_memslots *slots;
> >>> struct kvm_memory_slot *memslot;
> >>>
> >>> @@ -4302,7 +4302,19 @@ unsigned int kvm_mmu_calculate_mmu_pages(struct kvm *kvm)
> >>> kvm_for_each_memslot(memslot, slots)
> >>> nr_pages += memslot->npages;
> >>>
> >>> - nr_mmu_pages = nr_pages * KVM_PERMILLE_MMU_PAGES / 1000;
> >>> + if (tdp_enabled) {
> >>> + /* one root page */
> >>> + nr_mmu_pages = 1;
> >>> + /* nr_pages / (512^i) per level, due to
> >>> + * guest RAM map being linear */
> >>> + for (i = 1; i < 4; i++) {
> >>> + int nr_pages_round = nr_pages + (1 << (9*i));
> >>> + nr_mmu_pages += nr_pages_round >> (9*i);
> >>> + }
> >>
> >> Marcelo,
> >>
> >> Can it work if nested guest is used? Did you see any problem in practice (direct guest
> >> uses more memory than your calculation)?
> >
> > Direct guest can use more than the calculation by switching between
> > different paging modes.
>
> I mean guest runs on hardmmu (tdp is used but no nested guest). Its only
> use one page table and seems can not use more memory than your calculation
> (except some mmio page tables).
>
> So, you calculation is only used to limit memory used if tdp + nested guest?
Yes, you're right, there is no duplication of shadow pages even with
mode switches so the patch is not needed.
> > About nested guest: at one point in time the working set cannot exceed
> > the number of physical pages visible by the guest.
>
> But it can cause lots of #PF, it is the nightmare for performance, no?
>
> >
> > Allowing an excessively high number of shadow pages is a security
>
> The security concern means "optimization memory usage"? Or something else?
>
> > concern, also, as unpreemptable long operations are necessary to tear
> > down the pages.
>
> You mean limiting the shadow pages to let some patch run faster like
> remove-write-access and zap-all-sp etc.? If yes, we can directly optimize
> for these paths, this is more effective i think.
>
> >
> >> And mmio also can build some page table that looks like not considered
> >> in this patch.
> >
> > Right, but its only a few pages. Same argument as above: working set at
> > one given time is smaller than total RAM. Do you see any potential
> > problem?
>
> Marcelo, I just confused whether the limitation is reasonable, as i said,
> the limitation is not effective enough on hardmmu-only guest (no nested).
> and it seems too low for nested guests.
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-22 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-20 20:14 KVM: MMU: improve n_max_mmu_pages calculation with TDP Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-21 5:41 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-21 14:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-22 3:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 10:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
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