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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Andre Przywara <andre@andrep.de>
Cc: "Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger-kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Emulate MOVBE
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:08:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130410100845.GB17919@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130410112942.07dfc167@slackpad>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:29:42AM +0200, Andre Przywara wrote:
> In a real world VendorSpecific should be replaced with something more
> meaningful. Depends on KVMs intention to emulate instructions, actually
> out of scope for a pure virtualizer.
> 
Something like EmulateOnUD.

> What is the opinion from the KVM folks on this? Shall we start to
> emulate instructions the host does not provide? In this particular case
> a relatively simple patch fixes a problem (starting Atom optimized
> kernels on non-Atom machines).
We can add the emulation, but we should not start announcing the instruction
availability to a guest if host cpu does not have it by default. This
may trick a guest into thinking that movbe is the fastest way to do
something when it is not.

> 
> (And if one can believe the AMD Fam16h SWOG [1], PS4^Wfuture AMD
> processors have MOVBE, so it's not even actually one CPU anymore).
If a host CPU has the instruction emulation is not needed unless the
instruction is used for MMIO access.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-09 23:46 [RFC PATCH] Emulate MOVBE Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10  0:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10  0:04   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10  9:53     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10  9:29 ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-10 10:08   ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-04-10 10:17     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10 10:21       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-10 10:39     ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-10 12:16       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-11  0:18         ` [PATCH -v2] kvm: " Borislav Petkov
2013-04-11 14:28           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-11 15:37             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14  7:41               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-14 17:32                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 18:36                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-14 19:09                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 19:40                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-16 17:42                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 11:04                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-17 13:38                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 14:02                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-18 22:48                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21  9:46                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-21 11:30                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21 12:51                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-23 23:41                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-23 23:50                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-24  8:42                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-24  8:47                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14  8:43           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-14 21:02             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 11:36               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-21 11:46                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21 12:23                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22  8:53                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-22  9:38                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22  9:42                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-22  9:52                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22  9:58                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-22 13:49                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-26 16:08                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 11:47     ` [RFC PATCH] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-16 12:08       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 12:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-16 17:28       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 10:42         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-17 13:33           ` Gleb Natapov

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