From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Andre Przywara" <andre@andrep.de>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] kvm: Emulate MOVBE
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:38:29 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130417133829.GH1682@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130417110433.GD11807@pd.tnic>
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 01:04:34PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 08:42:36PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > Right, and this is what we have, AFAICT. And if userspace does that what
> > > you exemplify above, you get exactly that - a feature bit not set in
> > > CPUID but KVM reporting it set means, it is emulated. There's no room
> > > for other interpretations here. Which probably means also not optimal
> > > because it is not done in hw.
> > >
> > This is not true for all emulated CPUID bits. X2APIC is emulated and it
> > is preferable for a guest to use it for example.
>
> Right, and on boxes without X2APIC support you will not find
> CPUID(1).ECX[21] set. kvm will tell you it is supported, though, which
> means, kvm emulates it.
>
Yes, but it is "good" emulation. You want to have it for performance
even if host does not have x2apic. x2apic is emulated no matter if host
cpu has it or not. movbe is different, you want to emulate it only if
your guest requires it.
> > > Or, do you want to have a way to say with KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID that
> > > "the features I'm reporting to you are those - a subset of them are not
> > > optimally supported because I'm emulating them."
> > >
> > > Am I close?
> > >
> > Yes, you are. I am considering such interface. Adding new specialized
> > interfaces is last resort though. I am open to other ideas.
>
> Hmm, ok, so basically we want qemu to query the host CPUID and see which
> features are *really* supported, then do KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID and see
> which are emulated.
>
> How's that? Too simple?
As I said this will filter x2apic on machines which host cpu does not
support it. This is not what we want.
>
> I probably am missing something as a novice qemu user.
>
> --
> Regards/Gruss,
> Boris.
>
> Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
> --
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-17 13:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-09 23:46 [RFC PATCH] Emulate MOVBE Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10 0:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10 0:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10 9:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10 9:29 ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-10 10:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-10 10:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10 10:21 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-10 10:39 ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-10 12:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-11 0:18 ` [PATCH -v2] kvm: " Borislav Petkov
2013-04-11 14:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-11 15:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 7:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-14 17:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 18:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-14 19:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 19:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-16 17:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 11:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-17 13:38 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-04-17 14:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-18 22:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21 9:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-21 11:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21 12:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-23 23:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-23 23:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-24 8:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-24 8:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 8:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-14 21:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 11:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-21 11:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21 12:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22 8:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-22 9:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22 9:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-22 9:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-22 13:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-26 16:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 11:47 ` [RFC PATCH] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-16 12:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 12:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-16 17:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 10:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-17 13:33 ` Gleb Natapov
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