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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Andre Przywara" <andre@andrep.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] kvm: Emulate MOVBE
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 12:46:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130421094651.GA8997@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130418224848.GA20712@pd.tnic>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:48:48AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 04:02:00PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > Right, so basically we want to handle features which were explicitly
> > enabled only for this guest as private, only relevant to this
> > particular guest run.
> 
> Ok,
> 
> here are two more ideas Joerg and I had today during lunch:
> 
> * reuse KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID
> 
> we hand-in a struct kvm_cpuid_entry2 with ->function and respective bits
> in e[abcd]x set for each CPUID leaf we want to query kvm.
> 
> Once in the kernel, we do the following:
> 
> if ->function is not 0xffffffff, it means userspace wants us to look at
> the all set bits in the respective e[abcd]x members.
There may be userspaces that set ->function to 0xffffffff (just because
they do not init the buffer before calling into the kernel) and this will
break them.

> 
> For each set bit, we check whether we emulate the respective feature
> and if so, we leave it untouched before returning it to userspace.
> Otherwise, we clear it before OR-ing in the host bits and the
> good-emulated bits like x2apic.
> 
> Yeah, semantics need to be handled carefully, but it has this
> knock-on-door aspect where kvm says that it actually emulates a feature
> only if asked, i.e. with the -cpu ...,+<feature> syntax.
> 
> * new ioctl KVM_GET_EMULATED_CPUID
> 
> Might be overkill and might be used only in a limited fashion since we
> don't want to emulate *every* feature in kvm.
> 
> Hmmm. I kinda like the first one more while the second one is cleaner.
> 
The first one needs explicit userspace support to work correctly. This
should be other way around: old userspace should do the right thing, but may
not support new features, new userspace should be able to support new
feature.

We may extend KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID instead of adding new one. There
is a padding field in kvm_cpuid2 that we could have reused as flags,
but unfortunately current implementation does not error if the field is
not zero, so if there is a userspace that does not zero the padding it may
break. Another options is to reuse high bits of nent as flags (not very
nice, but will work).

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-21  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-09 23:46 [RFC PATCH] Emulate MOVBE Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10  0:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10  0:04   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10  9:53     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10  9:29 ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-10 10:08   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-10 10:17     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-10 10:21       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-10 10:39     ` Andre Przywara
2013-04-10 12:16       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-11  0:18         ` [PATCH -v2] kvm: " Borislav Petkov
2013-04-11 14:28           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-11 15:37             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14  7:41               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-14 17:32                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 18:36                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-14 19:09                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 19:40                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-16 17:42                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 11:04                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-17 13:38                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 14:02                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-18 22:48                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21  9:46                             ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-04-21 11:30                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21 12:51                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-23 23:41                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-23 23:50                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-24  8:42                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-24  8:47                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14  8:43           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-14 21:02             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 11:36               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-21 11:46                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-21 12:23                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22  8:53                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-22  9:38                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22  9:42                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-22  9:52                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-22  9:58                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-22 13:49                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-26 16:08                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 11:47     ` [RFC PATCH] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-16 12:08       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 12:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-16 17:28       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 10:42         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-17 13:33           ` Gleb Natapov

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