From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: mtosatti@redhat.com, avi.kivity@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/15] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:21:17 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130422092117.GM8997@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5173F319.2040106@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:09:29PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> On 04/21/2013 09:03 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:32:38PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >> This patchset is based on my previous two patchset:
> >> [PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86: avoid potential soft lockup and unneeded mmu reload
> >> (https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/1/2)
> >>
> >> [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM: MMU: fast invalid all mmio sptes
> >> (https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/1/134)
> >>
> >> Changlog:
> >> V3:
> >> completely redesign the algorithm, please see below.
> >>
> > This looks pretty complicated. Is it still needed in order to avoid soft
> > lockups after "avoid potential soft lockup and unneeded mmu reload" patch?
>
> Yes.
>
> I discussed this point with Marcelo:
>
> ======
> BTW, to my honest, i do not think spin_needbreak is a good way - it does
> not fix the hot-lock contention and it just occupies more cpu time to avoid
> possible soft lock-ups.
>
> Especially, zap-all-shadow-pages can let other vcpus fault and vcpus contest
> mmu-lock, then zap-all-shadow-pages release mmu-lock and wait, other vcpus
> create page tables again. zap-all-shadow-page need long time to be finished,
> the worst case is, it can not completed forever on intensive vcpu and memory
> usage.
>
So what about mixed approach: use generation numbers and reload roots to
quickly invalidate all shadow pages and then do kvm_mmu_zap_all_invalid().
kvm_mmu_zap_all_invalid() is a new function that invalidates only shadow
pages with stale generation number (and uses lock break technique). It
may traverse active_mmu_pages from tail to head since new shadow pages
will be added to the head of the list or it may use invalid slot rmap to
find exactly what should be invalidated.
> I still think the right way to fix this kind of thing is optimization for
> mmu-lock.
> ======
>
> Which parts scare you? Let's find a way to optimize for it. ;). For example,
> if you do not like unmap_memslot_rmap_nolock(), we can simplify it - We can
> use walk_shadow_page_lockless_begin() and walk_shadow_page_lockless_end() to
> protect spte instead of kvm->being_unmaped_rmap.
>
kvm->being_unmaped_rmap is particularly tricky, although looks
correct. Additional indirection with rmap ops also does not help following
the code. I'd rather have if(slot is invalid) in a couple of places where
things should be done differently. In most places it will be WARN_ON(slot
is invalid).
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-22 9:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-16 6:32 [PATCH v3 00/15] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] KVM: x86: clean up and optimize for kvm_arch_free_memslot Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] KVM: fold kvm_arch_create_memslot into kvm_arch_prepare_memory_region Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] KVM: x86: do not reuse rmap when memslot is moved Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] KVM: MMU: abstract memslot rmap related operations Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] KVM: MMU: allow per-rmap operations Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] KVM: MMU: allow concurrently clearing spte on remove-only pte-list Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] KVM: MMU: introduce invalid rmap handlers Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-17 23:38 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18 3:15 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] KVM: MMU: allow unmap invalid rmap out of mmu-lock Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-18 11:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-18 11:22 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-18 11:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-18 12:10 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] KVM: MMU: introduce free_meslot_rmap_desc_nolock Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] KVM: x86: introduce memslot_set_lpage_disallowed Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] KVM: MMU: introduce kvm_clear_all_lpage_info Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] KVM: MMU: fast invalid all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-18 0:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18 4:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-18 13:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18 13:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18 15:20 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] KVM: x86: use the fast way to invalid all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] KVM: move srcu_read_lock/srcu_read_unlock to arch-specified code Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-16 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] KVM: MMU: replace kvm_zap_all with kvm_mmu_invalid_all_pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-18 0:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18 4:03 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-20 17:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-21 6:59 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-21 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Gleb Natapov
2013-04-21 14:09 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-21 15:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-22 2:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-22 9:21 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-04-23 0:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-23 6:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-23 7:20 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-23 7:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-21 15:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-21 15:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-22 12:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-22 13:45 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-04-22 23:02 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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