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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Asias He <asias@redhat.com>
Cc: Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	target-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/3] tcm_vhost: Add helper to check if endpoint is setup
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:21:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130422162105.GA10047@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130422150019.GA23376@hj.localdomain>

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:00:19PM +0800, Asias He wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:28:07PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:53:27PM +0800, Asias He wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:38:23AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 04:32:30PM +0800, Asias He wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:09:53AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 09:05:53AM +0800, Asias He wrote:
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Asias He <asias@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >  drivers/vhost/tcm_vhost.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > >  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/vhost/tcm_vhost.c b/drivers/vhost/tcm_vhost.c
> > > > > > > index 88ebb79..8f05528 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/drivers/vhost/tcm_vhost.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/vhost/tcm_vhost.c
> > > > > > > @@ -111,6 +111,24 @@ static bool tcm_vhost_check_feature(struct vhost_scsi *vs, int feature)
> > > > > > >  	return ret;
> > > > > > >  }
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > +static bool tcm_vhost_check_endpoint(struct vhost_virtqueue *vq)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > +	bool ret = false;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > > +	* We can handle the vq only after the endpoint is setup by calling the
> > > > > > > +	* VHOST_SCSI_SET_ENDPOINT ioctl.
> > > > > > > +	*
> > > > > > > +	* TODO: Check that we are running from vhost_worker which acts
> > > > > > > +	* as read-side critical section for vhost kind of RCU.
> > > > > > > +	* See the comments in struct vhost_virtqueue in drivers/vhost/vhost.h
> > > > > > > +	*/
> > > > > > > +	if (rcu_dereference_check(vq->private_data, 1))
> > > > > > > +		ret = true;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +	return ret;
> > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You can't use RCU in this way. You need to actually
> > > > > > derefence. Instead, just move this within vq mutex
> > > > > > and do rcu_dereference_protected. document that this function
> > > > > > requires vq mutex.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any difference with: 
> > > > > 
> > > > >    vs_tpg = rcu_dereference_check(vq->private_data, 1);
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, it's not the same. rcu_dereference_protected says
> > > > "this is generally RCU but here I use it under lock".
> > > > rcu_dereference_check can only be used if you
> > > > really dereference later, and you don't.
> > > 
> > > So you want the helper to be this?
> > > 
> > > static bool tcm_vhost_check_endpoint()
> > > {
> > >         struct tcm_vhost_tpg **vs_tpg;
> > > 
> > >         vs_tpg = rcu_dereference_check(vq->private_data, 1);
> > >         if (vs_tpg)
> > >                 return true;
> > >         else
> > >                 return false
> > > }
> > > 
> > > And what difference code the compiler will generate with this:
> > > 
> > > static bool tcm_vhost_check_endpoint()
> > > {
> > > 
> > >         if (rcu_dereference_check(vq->private_data, 1))
> > >                 return true
> > >         else
> > >                 return false
> > > }
> > > 
> > 
> > No, what I want is that private data is
> > either dereferenced (not tested against NULL)
> > or used under vq mutex.
> > In this case the second option is the easiest
> > and the cleanest. So move it under mutex
> > and then test it safely without rcu.
> 
> Why you use it in -net? The test against NULL is under in the rcu
> read critical section. What is wrong with this really?

Look at the code and see that barriers in rcu_dereference
assume that pointer really is dereferenced.
You don't dereference it, so rcu_dereference_XXX is wrong.

> > > > 
> > > > >    if (vs_tpg)
> > > > > 	return ture
> > > > >    else
> > > > >         return false;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Note, tcm_vhost_check_endpoint() is called in multiple places. Having a
> > > > > helper is more convenient.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm fine with the helper, but fix the implementation
> > > > and fix all callers to have vq mutex when calling.
> > > 
> > > All the caller are in the vhost thread. Why need vq mutex to be taken?
> > 
> > vhost thread is an implementation detail, people are experimenting with
> > various threading strategies.  In particular, code must
> > keep working when we move it to use a workqueue.
> 
> Well, you should remove your vhost RCU thing first and use real RCU
> explicitly.

I don't think it's useful or possible.

> Does -net keep working after vhost changes to workqueue?

I think so, yes.

> Since when this becomes a requirement?

It's the requirement to use the abstractions that are in place. Devices
should use the interfaces and not assume vhost implementation, it
happens to be the case but it's not guaranteed.

> > > > > > >  static int tcm_vhost_check_true(struct se_portal_group *se_tpg)
> > > > > > >  {
> > > > > > >  	return 1;
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > 1.8.1.4
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Asias
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Asias
> 
> -- 
> Asias

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-22 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-09  8:51 [PATCH v5 0/3] tcm_vhost hotplug Asias He
2013-04-09  8:51 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] tcm_vhost: Introduce tcm_vhost_check_feature() Asias He
2013-04-09  8:51 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] tcm_vhost: Add helper to check if endpoint is setup Asias He
2013-04-09  8:51 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] tcm_vhost: Add hotplug/hotunplug support Asias He
2013-04-12 23:10 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] tcm_vhost hotplug Nicholas A. Bellinger
2013-04-13  3:20   ` [PATCH v6 " Asias He
2013-04-13  3:20   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] tcm_vhost: Introduce tcm_vhost_check_feature() Asias He
2013-04-13  3:20   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] tcm_vhost: Add helper to check if endpoint is setup Asias He
2013-04-13  3:20   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] tcm_vhost: Add hotplug/hotunplug support Asias He
2013-04-14  8:53   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] tcm_vhost hotplug Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-17 13:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-18  1:05     ` [PATCH v7 " Asias He
2013-04-18  7:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-18  1:05     ` [PATCH v7 1/3] tcm_vhost: Introduce tcm_vhost_check_feature() Asias He
2013-04-18  7:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-18  8:25         ` Asias He
2013-04-18  7:44           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-18  1:05     ` [PATCH v7 2/3] tcm_vhost: Add helper to check if endpoint is setup Asias He
2013-04-18  7:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-18  8:32         ` Asias He
2013-04-18  7:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-22  8:53             ` Asias He
2013-04-22 13:28               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-22 15:00                 ` Asias He
2013-04-22 16:21                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-04-18  1:05     ` [PATCH v7 3/3] tcm_vhost: Add hotplug/hotunplug support Asias He
2013-04-18  7:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-18  8:59         ` Asias He
2013-04-18  8:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-19  2:34             ` Asias He
2013-04-20 19:01               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-22  9:20                 ` Asias He
2013-04-22 13:17                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-22 15:22                     ` Asias He
2013-04-23  4:18                       ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-23  4:45                         ` Asias He
2013-04-18  1:09     ` [PATCH v5 0/3] tcm_vhost hotplug Asias He

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