From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: gleb@redhat.com, avi.kivity@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/6] KVM: MMU: fast invalid all shadow pages
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 11:42:11 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130507144211.GC6408@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5188778F.9030804@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 11:39:59AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >>> Step 1) Fix kvm_mmu_zap_all's behaviour: introduce lockbreak via
> >>> spin_needbreak. Use generation numbers so that in case kvm_mmu_zap_all
> >>> releases mmu_lock and reacquires it again, only shadow pages
> >>> from the generation with which kvm_mmu_zap_all started are zapped (this
> >>> guarantees forward progress and eventual termination).
> >>>
> >>> kvm_mmu_zap_generation()
> >>> spin_lock(mmu_lock)
> >>> int generation = kvm->arch.mmu_generation;
> >>>
> >>> for_each_shadow_page(sp) {
> >>> if (sp->generation == kvm->arch.mmu_generation)
> >>> zap_page(sp)
> >>> if (spin_needbreak(mmu_lock)) {
> >>> kvm->arch.mmu_generation++;
> >>> cond_resched_lock(mmu_lock);
> >>> }
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> kvm_mmu_zap_all()
> >>> spin_lock(mmu_lock)
> >>> for_each_shadow_page(sp) {
> >>> if (spin_needbreak(mmu_lock)) {
> >>> cond_resched_lock(mmu_lock);
> >>> }
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Use kvm_mmu_zap_generation for kvm_arch_flush_shadow_memslot.
> >>> Use kvm_mmu_zap_all for kvm_mmu_notifier_release,kvm_destroy_vm.
> >>>
> >>> This addresses the main problem: excessively long hold times
> >>> of kvm_mmu_zap_all with very large guests.
> >>>
> >>> Do you see any problem with this logic? This was what i was thinking
> >>> we agreed.
> >>
> >> No. I understand it and it can work.
> >>
> >> Actually, it is similar with Gleb's idea that "zapping stale shadow pages
> >> (and uses lock break technique)", after some discussion, we thought "only zap
> >> shadow pages that are reachable from the slot's rmap" is better, that is this
> >> patchset does.
> >> (https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/23/73)
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Step 2) Show that the optimization to zap only the roots is worthwhile
> >>> via benchmarking, and implement it.
> >>
> >> This is what i am confused. I can not understand how "zap only the roots"
> >> works. You mean these change?
> >>
> >> kvm_mmu_zap_generation()
> >> spin_lock(mmu_lock)
> >> int generation = kvm->arch.mmu_generation;
> >>
> >> for_each_shadow_page(sp) {
> >> /* Change here. */
> >> => if ((sp->generation == kvm->arch.mmu_generation) &&
> >> => sp->root_count)
> >> zap_page(sp)
> >>
> >> if (spin_needbreak(mmu_lock)) {
> >> kvm->arch.mmu_generation++;
> >> cond_resched_lock(mmu_lock);
> >> }
> >> }
> >>
> >> If we do this, there will have shadow pages that are linked to invalid memslot's
> >> rmap. How do we handle these pages and the mmu-notify issue?
No, this is a full kvm_mmu_zap_page().
In step 2, after demonstrating and understanding kvm_mmu_zap_page()'s inefficiency (which
we are not certain about, given the four use cases of slot
deletion/move/create), use something smarter than plain
kvm_mmu_zap_page.
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > By "zap only roots" i mean zapping roots plus generation number on
> > shadow pages. But this as a second step, after it has been demonstrated
> > its worthwhile.
>
> Marcelo,
>
> Sorry for my stupidity, still do not understand. Could you please show me the
> pseudocode and answer my questions above?
Hopefully its clear now?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-07 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-27 3:13 [PATCH v4 0/6] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-27 3:13 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] KVM: MMU: drop unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-27 3:13 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] KVM: x86: introduce memslot_set_lpage_disallowed Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-03 2:10 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-03 5:55 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-27 3:13 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] KVM: MMU: introduce kvm_clear_all_lpage_info Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-03 2:15 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-03 5:57 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-27 3:13 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] KVM: MMU: fast invalid all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-03 1:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-03 5:52 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-03 15:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-03 16:51 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-04 0:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-04 0:56 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-06 3:39 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-06 12:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-06 13:10 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-06 17:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-06 17:45 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-07 8:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-07 9:41 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-07 10:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-07 14:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-07 14:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-07 15:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-08 10:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-06 19:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-07 3:39 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-07 14:42 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-05-03 2:27 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-03 6:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-27 3:13 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] KVM: x86: use the fast way to invalid all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-04-27 3:13 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] KVM: MMU: make kvm_mmu_zap_all preemptable Xiao Guangrong
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