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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Glauber Costa <glommer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KVM: x86: limit difference between kvmclock updates
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:41:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130515174154.GD24814@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130514131257.GA19277@amt.cnet>

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:12:57AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:05:13PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 08:21:41PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > 
> > > kvmclock updates which are isolated to a given vcpu, such as vcpu->cpu
> > > migration, should not allow system_timestamp from the rest of the vcpus
> > > to remain static. Otherwise ntp frequency correction applies to one
> > > vcpu's system_timestamp but not the others.
> > > 
> > > So in those cases, request a kvmclock update for all vcpus. The worst
> > > case for a remote vcpu to update its kvmclock is then bounded by maximum
> > > nohz sleep latency.
> > > 
> > Does this mean that when one vcpu is migrated all others are kicked out
> > from a guest mode?
> 
> Yes, those which are in guest mode. For guests with large number of
> vcpus this is a problem, but i can't see a simpler method to fix the bug
> for now.
> 
> Yes, this aspect must be improved (however, the bug incurs on timers in
> the guest taking tens of milliseconds with vcpu->pcpu pinning, which can
> be unacceptable).
Not sure I understand. With vcpu->pcpu pinning there will be no
migration. Do you mean "without" here?

If vcpu->kvm->arch.use_master_clock is false we kick vcpus on each
vcpu_load. When is it false?

I applied the patch since it fixes the real problem, but we need to
evaluate how it affects scalability.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-15 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-09 23:21 KVM: x86: limit difference between kvmclock updates Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-14  9:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-14 13:12   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-15 17:41     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-05-15 19:01       ` Marcelo Tosatti

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