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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Glauber Costa <glommer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KVM: x86: limit difference between kvmclock updates
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 16:01:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130515190113.GA11349@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130515174154.GD24814@redhat.com>

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:41:54PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:12:57AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:05:13PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 08:21:41PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > kvmclock updates which are isolated to a given vcpu, such as vcpu->cpu
> > > > migration, should not allow system_timestamp from the rest of the vcpus
> > > > to remain static. Otherwise ntp frequency correction applies to one
> > > > vcpu's system_timestamp but not the others.
> > > > 
> > > > So in those cases, request a kvmclock update for all vcpus. The worst
> > > > case for a remote vcpu to update its kvmclock is then bounded by maximum
> > > > nohz sleep latency.
> > > > 
> > > Does this mean that when one vcpu is migrated all others are kicked out
> > > from a guest mode?
> > 
> > Yes, those which are in guest mode. For guests with large number of
> > vcpus this is a problem, but i can't see a simpler method to fix the bug
> > for now.
> > 
> > Yes, this aspect must be improved (however, the bug incurs on timers in
> > the guest taking tens of milliseconds with vcpu->pcpu pinning, which can
> > be unacceptable).
> Not sure I understand. With vcpu->pcpu pinning there will be no
> migration. Do you mean "without" here?

With vcpu->pcpu pinning there is no guarantee of kvm_arch_vcpu_load therefore 
no KVM_REQ_UPDATE_CLOCK. This is the problem.

> If vcpu->kvm->arch.use_master_clock is false we kick vcpus on each
> vcpu_load. When is it false?

When

- the host does not use TSC clocksource
or 
- the vcpus TSCs are out of sync

> I applied the patch since it fixes the real problem, but we need to
> evaluate how it affects scalability.

I'll look into ways to reduce the IPIs.


      reply	other threads:[~2013-05-15 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-09 23:21 KVM: x86: limit difference between kvmclock updates Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-14  9:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-14 13:12   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-15 17:41     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-15 19:01       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]

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