From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: gleb@redhat.com, avi.kivity@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 04/11] KVM: MMU: zap pages in batch
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 08:11:32 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130529111132.GA5931@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A4C6F1.9000607@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:02:09PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> On 05/28/2013 08:18 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:20:12AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >> On 05/25/2013 04:34 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 03:55:53AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >>>> Zap at lease 10 pages before releasing mmu-lock to reduce the overload
> >>>> caused by requiring lock
> >>>>
> >>>> After the patch, kvm_zap_obsolete_pages can forward progress anyway,
> >>>> so update the comments
> >>>>
> >>>> [ It improves kernel building 0.6% ~ 1% ]
> >>>
> >>> Can you please describe the overload in more detail? Under what scenario
> >>> is kernel building improved?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> The scenario is we do kernel building, meanwhile, repeatedly read PCI rom
> >> every one second.
> >>
> >> [
> >> echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:03.0/rom
> >> cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:03.0/rom > /dev/null
> >> ]
> >
> > Can't see why it reflects real world scenario (or a real world
> > scenario with same characteristics regarding kvm_mmu_zap_all vs faults)?
> >
> > Point is, it would be good to understand why this change
> > is improving performance? What are these cases where breaking out of
> > kvm_mmu_zap_all due to either (need_resched || spin_needbreak) on zapped
> > < 10 ?
>
> When guest read ROM, qemu will set the memory to map the device's firmware,
> that is why kvm_mmu_zap_all can be called in the scenario.
>
> The reasons why it heart the performance are:
> 1): Qemu use a global io-lock to sync all vcpu, so that the io-lock is held
> when we do kvm_mmu_zap_all(). If kvm_mmu_zap_all() is not efficient, all
> other vcpus need wait a long time to do I/O.
>
> 2): kvm_mmu_zap_all() is triggered in vcpu context. so it can block the IPI
> request from other vcpus.
>
> Is it enough?
That is no problem. The problem is why you chose "10" as the minimum number of
pages to zap before considering reschedule. I would expect the need to
reschedule to be rare enough that one kvm_mmu_zap_all instance (between
schedule in and schedule out) to be able to release no less than a
thousand pages.
So i'd like to understand better what is the drive for this change (this
was the original question).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-29 11:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-22 19:55 [PATCH v7 00/11] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] KVM: x86: drop calling kvm_mmu_zap_all in emulator_fix_hypercall Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] KVM: MMU: drop unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] KVM: MMU: fast invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-26 8:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-26 20:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27 22:59 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-27 2:02 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] KVM: MMU: zap pages in batch Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 20:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27 2:20 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28 0:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:02 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 11:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-05-29 13:09 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 13:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 14:02 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 16:03 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] KVM: x86: use the fast way to invalidate all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] KVM: MMU: show mmu_valid_gen in shadow page related tracepoints Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] KVM: MMU: add tracepoint for kvm_mmu_invalidate_all_pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] KVM: MMU: do not reuse the obsolete page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] KVM: MMU: introduce kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_obsolete_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 5:57 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 6:13 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 6:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 6:31 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 7:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 7:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 8:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 8:33 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 11:13 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 12:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 13:03 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 15:57 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-24 5:39 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-24 5:53 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-28 0:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 14:51 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 12:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:43 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] KVM: MMU: collapse TLB flushes when zap all pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 6:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 6:26 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 7:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 7:37 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 7:38 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-23 7:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-28 0:36 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-28 15:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 3:03 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-29 12:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-29 13:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-05-30 0:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-30 16:24 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-30 17:10 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-05-22 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] KVM: MMU: reduce KVM_REQ_MMU_RELOAD when root page is zapped Xiao Guangrong
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