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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa_takuya_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: MMU: Inform users of mmio generation wraparound
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:54:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130620125438.GM5832@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130620212837.185c5d4f5a9adbbd44c6f1ad@gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:28:37PM +0900, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:45:04 +0300
> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:59:54PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > Il 20/06/2013 10:59, Takuya Yoshikawa ha scritto:
> > > > Without this information, users will just see unexpected performance
> > > > problems and there is little chance we will get good reports from them:
> > > > note that mmio generation is increased even when we just start, or stop,
> > > > dirty logging for some memory slot, in which case users should never
> > > > expect all shadow pages to be zapped.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa_takuya_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c |    4 +++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> > > > index c60c5da..bc8302f 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> > > > @@ -4385,8 +4385,10 @@ void kvm_mmu_invalidate_mmio_sptes(struct kvm *kvm)
> > > >  	 * The max value is MMIO_MAX_GEN - 1 since it is not called
> > > >  	 * when mark memslot invalid.
> > > >  	 */
> > > > -	if (unlikely(kvm_current_mmio_generation(kvm) >= (MMIO_MAX_GEN - 1)))
> > > > +	if (unlikely(kvm_current_mmio_generation(kvm) >= (MMIO_MAX_GEN - 1))) {
> > > > +		printk(KERN_INFO "kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound");
> > > 
> > > This should at least be rate-limited, because it is guest triggerable.
> > > 
> > It will be hard for guest to triggers it 1 << 19 times too fast though.
> 
> I think guest-triggerable zap_all itself is a threat for the host, rather
> than a matter of log flooding, even if it can be preempted.
> 
It's not much we can do about it. Slot removal/creation is triggerable
through HW emulation registers.

> > 
> > > But why isn't the kvm_mmu_invalidate_zap_all_pages tracepoint enough?
> > > 
> > This one will trigger during slot deletion/move too.
> > 
> > I would put it in to see if it actually triggers in some real world
> > workloads (skipping the firs wraparound since it is intentional),
> > we can always drop it if it will turn out to create a lot of noise.
> >  
> 
> This patch is not for developers but for end users: of course they do not
> use tracers during running their services normally.
> 
> If they see mysterious peformance problems induced by this wraparound, the only
> way to know the cause later is by this kind of information in the syslog.
> So even the first wraparound may better be printed out IMO.
Think about starting hundreds VMs on a freshly booted host. You will see
hundreds of those pretty quickly.

> 
> I want to let administrators know the cause if possible, any better way?
> 
Not that I can think of. Paolo what about print_once() and ignore first
wraparound?

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-20 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-20  8:59 [PATCH] KVM: MMU: Inform users of mmio generation wraparound Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-06-20 10:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 11:45   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-20 12:28     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-06-20 12:54       ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-06-20 13:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 14:26           ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-06-20 13:17         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-06-20 12:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 12:46       ` Gleb Natapov

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