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From: Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa_takuya_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: MMU: Inform users of mmio generation wraparound
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:28:37 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130620212837.185c5d4f5a9adbbd44c6f1ad@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130620114504.GG5832@redhat.com>

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:45:04 +0300
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:59:54PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Il 20/06/2013 10:59, Takuya Yoshikawa ha scritto:
> > > Without this information, users will just see unexpected performance
> > > problems and there is little chance we will get good reports from them:
> > > note that mmio generation is increased even when we just start, or stop,
> > > dirty logging for some memory slot, in which case users should never
> > > expect all shadow pages to be zapped.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa_takuya_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > ---
> > >  arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c |    4 +++-
> > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> > > index c60c5da..bc8302f 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c
> > > @@ -4385,8 +4385,10 @@ void kvm_mmu_invalidate_mmio_sptes(struct kvm *kvm)
> > >  	 * The max value is MMIO_MAX_GEN - 1 since it is not called
> > >  	 * when mark memslot invalid.
> > >  	 */
> > > -	if (unlikely(kvm_current_mmio_generation(kvm) >= (MMIO_MAX_GEN - 1)))
> > > +	if (unlikely(kvm_current_mmio_generation(kvm) >= (MMIO_MAX_GEN - 1))) {
> > > +		printk(KERN_INFO "kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound");
> > 
> > This should at least be rate-limited, because it is guest triggerable.
> > 
> It will be hard for guest to triggers it 1 << 19 times too fast though.

I think guest-triggerable zap_all itself is a threat for the host, rather
than a matter of log flooding, even if it can be preempted.

> 
> > But why isn't the kvm_mmu_invalidate_zap_all_pages tracepoint enough?
> > 
> This one will trigger during slot deletion/move too.
> 
> I would put it in to see if it actually triggers in some real world
> workloads (skipping the firs wraparound since it is intentional),
> we can always drop it if it will turn out to create a lot of noise.
>  

This patch is not for developers but for end users: of course they do not
use tracers during running their services normally.

If they see mysterious peformance problems induced by this wraparound, the only
way to know the cause later is by this kind of information in the syslog.
So even the first wraparound may better be printed out IMO.

I want to let administrators know the cause if possible, any better way?

	Takuya

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-20 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-20  8:59 [PATCH] KVM: MMU: Inform users of mmio generation wraparound Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-06-20 10:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 11:45   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-20 12:28     ` Takuya Yoshikawa [this message]
2013-06-20 12:54       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-20 13:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 14:26           ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-06-20 13:17         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2013-06-20 12:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 12:46       ` Gleb Natapov

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