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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Mario Smarduch <mario.smarduch@huawei.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Antonios@lvm, "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"<christoffer.dall@linaro.com>" <christoffer.dall@linaro.com>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] armv7 initial device passthrough support
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:01:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130624200154.GD51516@lvm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51C7FE68.1050202@huawei.com>

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:08:08AM +0200, Mario Smarduch wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/15/2013 5:47 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Il 13/06/2013 11:19, Mario Smarduch ha scritto:
> >> Updated Device Passthrough Patch.
> >> - optimized IRQ->CPU->vCPU binding, irq is installed once
> >> - added dynamic IRQ affinity on schedule in
> >> - added documentation and few other coding recommendations.
> >>
> >> Per earlier discussion VFIO is our target but we like
> >> something earlier to work with to tackle performance
> >> latency issue (some ARM related) for device passthrough 
> >> while we migrate towards VFIO.
> > 
> > I don't think this is acceptable upstream, unfortunately.  KVM device
> > assignment is deprecated and we should not add more users.
> That's fine we'll work our way towards dev-tree VFIO reusing what we can
> working with the community.
> 
> At this point we're more concerned with numbers and best practices as 
> opposed to mechanism this part will be time consuming. 
> VFIO will be more background for us.
> 
> > 
> > What are the latency issues you have?
> 
> Our focus now is on IRQ latency and throughput. Right now it appears lowest latency
> is 2x + exit/enter + IRQ injection overhead. We can't tolerate additional 
> IPIs or deferred IRQ injection approaches. We're looking for numbers closer
> to what IBMs ELI managed. Also high res timers which ARM Virt. Ext supports 
> very well. Exitless interrupts which ARM handles very well too. There are
> some future hw ARM interrupt enhancements coming up which may help a lot as well.
> 
> There are many other latency/perf. reqs for NFV related to RT,
> essentially Guest must run near native. In the end it may turn out this
> may need to be outside of main tree we'll see.
> 
It doesn't sound like this will be the end result.  Everything that you
try to do in your patch set can be accomplished using VFIO and a more
generic infrastructure for virtual IRQ integration with KVM and user
space.

We should avoid creating an environment with important functionality
outside of the main tree, if at all possible.

-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-24 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-13 15:19 [PATCH 2/2] armv7 initial device passthrough support Mario Smarduch
2013-06-15 15:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-24  8:08   ` Mario Smarduch
2013-06-24 20:01     ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2013-06-24 22:27       ` Stuart Yoder
2013-06-25  6:58         ` Mario Smarduch
2013-06-25  6:53       ` Mario Smarduch

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