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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Yang Zhang <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/13] nEPT: Add nEPT violation/misconfigration support
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:20:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130729132035.GK18009@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F66A0B.20108@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 03:11:39PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 29/07/2013 14:34, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> >>>> But I think what you _really_ want is not avoiding conditional branches.
> >>> The idea is that it is hard for branch prediction to predict correct
> >>> result when correct result depends on guest's page table that can
> >>> contain anything, so in some places shadow paging code uses boolean
> >>> logic to avoid branches, in this case it is hard to avoid if() anyway
> >>> since the function invocation is in the if().
> >>
> >> Yes, I get the idea, but is_rsvd_bits_set should be predicted unlikely,
> >> no?  If the guest has to run, it must use mostly valid ptes. :)
> >>
> > You see, you are confused and you want branch prediction not to be? :)
> > If your guest is KVM is_rsvd_bits_set() will be likely much more then
> > unlikely because KVM misconfigures EPT entries to cache MMIO addresses,
> > so all the "unlikely" cases will be fixed by shadow pages and will not
> > reappear (until shadow pages are zapped), but misconfigured entries will
> > continue to produces violations.
> 
> But then:
> 
> 1) MMIO is a slow path anyway, losing 10 cycles on a mispredicted branch
> is not going to help much.  Fast page faults are all I would optimize for.
> 
Of course, for that the check should be fast.

> 2) in cases like this you just do not use likely/unlikely; the branch
> will be very unlikely in the beginning, and very likely once shadow
> pages are filled or in the no-EPT case.  Just let the branch predictor
> adjust, it will probably do better than boolean tricks.
> 
likely/unlikely are usually useless anyway. If you can avoid if()
altogether this is a win since there is no branch to predict.

> >> Especially if you change prefetch_invalid_gpte to do the reserved bits
> >> test after the present test (so that is_rsvd_bits_set is only called on
> >> present pagetables), is_rsvd_bits_set's result should be really
> >> well-predicted. 
> > Nope, for ept page tables present is not a single bit, it is three bits
> > which by themselves can have invalid values.
> 
> We're not checking the validity of the bits in the is_present_gpte test,
> we're checking it in the is_rsvd_bits_set test (is_present_gpte is doing
> just "(pte & 7) != 0").  It doesn't change anything in the outcome of
> prefetch_invalid_gpte, and it makes the ordering consistent with
> walk_addr_generic which already tests presence before reserved bits.
> 
> So doing this swap should be a win anyway.
> 
> >>                   At this point (and especially since function invocation
> >> is always in "if"s), using boolean logic to avoid branches does not make
> >> much sense anymore for this function.
> > 
> > That's true.
> 
> So are you going to change to "if"s?
> 
I think it will be better just to check mmu->bad_mt_xwr always. (I
dislike ifdefs if you haven't noticed :)).

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-29 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-25 10:59 [PATCH v4 00/13] Nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] nEPT: Support LOAD_IA32_EFER entry/exit controls for L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] nEPT: Fix cr3 handling in nested exit and entry Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] nEPT: Fix wrong test in kvm_set_cr3 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:43     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] nEPT: Move common code to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-31  8:36     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] nEPT: make guest's A/D bits depends on guest's paging mode Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] nEPT: Add EPT tables support to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:33     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:24         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:27             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:14                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 16:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:43                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 17:06                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 17:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 10:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 11:56     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 12:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 14:22         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 14:36           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] nEPT: Redefine EPT-specific link_shadow_page() Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] nEPT: Nested INVEPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] nEPT: Add nEPT violation/misconfigration support Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:52     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 10:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:43         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 12:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:34             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:11               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:20                 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-07-29 14:12                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:24                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 16:36                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:54                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] nEPT: MMU context for nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] nEPT: Advertise EPT to L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:11     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:35         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] nEPT: Some additional comments Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] nEPT: Miscelleneous cleanups Gleb Natapov

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