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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Yang Zhang <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/13] nEPT: Add nEPT violation/misconfigration support
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:24:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130729162450.GB28372@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F67851.8070408@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 04:12:33PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 29/07/2013 15:20, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> >> 2) in cases like this you just do not use likely/unlikely; the branch
> >> will be very unlikely in the beginning, and very likely once shadow
> >> pages are filled or in the no-EPT case.  Just let the branch predictor
> >> adjust, it will probably do better than boolean tricks.
> >>
> > likely/unlikely are usually useless anyway. If you can avoid if()
> > altogether this is a win since there is no branch to predict.
> 
> However, if the branches are dynamically well-predicted,
> 
>    if (simple)
>        ...
>    if (complex)
>        ...
> 
> is likely faster than
> 
>    if (simple | complex)
> 
> because the branches then are very very cheap, and it pays off to not
> always evaluate the complex branch.
> 
Good point about about "|" always evaluating both. Is this the case
with if (simple !=0 | complex != 0) too where theoretically compiler may
see that if simple !=0 is true no need to evaluate the second one?
 

> In this case, the reserved bit test is the relatively complex one, it
> has a couple memory accesses and a longish chain of dependencies.
> 
> >>>> Especially if you change prefetch_invalid_gpte to do the reserved bits
> >>>> test after the present test (so that is_rsvd_bits_set is only called on
> >>>> present pagetables), is_rsvd_bits_set's result should be really
> >>>> well-predicted. 
> >>> Nope, for ept page tables present is not a single bit, it is three bits
> >>> which by themselves can have invalid values.
> >>
> >> We're not checking the validity of the bits in the is_present_gpte test,
> >> we're checking it in the is_rsvd_bits_set test (is_present_gpte is doing
> >> just "(pte & 7) != 0").  It doesn't change anything in the outcome of
> >> prefetch_invalid_gpte, and it makes the ordering consistent with
> >> walk_addr_generic which already tests presence before reserved bits.
> >>
> >> So doing this swap should be a win anyway.
> >>
> >>>>                   At this point (and especially since function invocation
> >>>> is always in "if"s), using boolean logic to avoid branches does not make
> >>>> much sense anymore for this function.
> >>>
> >>> That's true.
> >>
> >> So are you going to change to "if"s?
> >>
> > I think it will be better just to check mmu->bad_mt_xwr always. (I
> > dislike ifdefs if you haven't noticed :)).
> 
> Yeah, I also thought of always checking bad_mt_xwr and even using it to
> subsume the present check too, i.e. turning it into
> is_rsvd_bits_set_or_nonpresent.  It checks the same bits that are used
> in the present check (well, a superset).  You can then check for
> presence separately if you care, which you don't in
> prefetch_invalid_gpte.  It requires small changes in the callers but
> nothing major.
I do not get what is_rsvd_bits_set_or_nonpresent() will check exactly
and why do we needed it, there are two places where we check
present/reserved and in one of them we need to know which one it is.

Anyway order of checks in prefetch_invalid_gpte() is not relevant to
that patchset, so lets better leave it to a separate discussion.

> 
> But it still seems to me that we're in the above "if (simple ||
> complex)" case and having a separate "if (!present)" check will be faster.
> 
> Paolo

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-29 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-25 10:59 [PATCH v4 00/13] Nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] nEPT: Support LOAD_IA32_EFER entry/exit controls for L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] nEPT: Fix cr3 handling in nested exit and entry Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] nEPT: Fix wrong test in kvm_set_cr3 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:43     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] nEPT: Move common code to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-31  8:36     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] nEPT: make guest's A/D bits depends on guest's paging mode Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] nEPT: Add EPT tables support to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:33     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:24         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:27             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:14                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 16:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:43                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 17:06                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 17:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 10:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 11:56     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 12:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 14:22         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 14:36           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] nEPT: Redefine EPT-specific link_shadow_page() Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] nEPT: Nested INVEPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] nEPT: Add nEPT violation/misconfigration support Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:52     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 10:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:43         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 12:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:34             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:11               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:20                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:12                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:24                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-07-29 16:36                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:54                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] nEPT: MMU context for nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] nEPT: Advertise EPT to L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:11     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:35         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] nEPT: Some additional comments Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] nEPT: Miscelleneous cleanups Gleb Natapov

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