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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Yang Zhang <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/13] nEPT: Add EPT tables support to paging_tmpl.h
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:11:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130729171124.GE28372@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F6A10D.2070904@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 07:06:21PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 29/07/2013 18:43, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 06:28:37PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> Il 29/07/2013 18:14, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>                 accessed_dirty &=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 			pte >> (PT_DIRTY_SHIFT - PT_ACCESSED_SHIFT);
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>         if (PT_GUEST_DIRTY_MASK != 0 && unlikely(!accessed_dirty)) {
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the obvious reaction is "what, is there a case where I'm using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> accessed_dirty if PT_GUEST_DIRTY_MASK == 0?"  Of course it makes sense
> >>>>>>>>>>> In this case accessed_dirty has correct value of 0 :) The if() bellow just
> >>>>>>>>>>> tells you that since A/D is not supported there is nothing to be done
> >>>>>>>>>>> about zero value of accessed_dirty, but the value itself is correct!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It is correct because accessed_dirty is initialized to 0.  But the "&"
> >>>>>>>>> with a bit taken out of thin air (bit 0 of the PTE)?  That's just
> >>>>>>>>> disgusting. :)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sorry to disgust you, but the code relies on this "&" trick with or
> >>>>>>> without the patch. It clears all unrelated bits from pte this way. No
> >>>>>>> new disgusting tricks are added by the patch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh the code is not disgusting at all!  It is very nice to follow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The new disgusting ;) trick is that here in the EPT case you're
> >>>>> effectively doing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 	accessed_dirty &= pte;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> where bit 0 is the "R" bit (iirc) and has absolutely nothing to do with
> >>>>> dirty or accessed.
> >>>
> >>> What bit 0 has to do with anything? Non ept code after shift also has
> >>> random bits and random places in ept (R at P place, U at R place), the
> >>> trick is that accessed_dirty masks bits we are not interesting in and
> >>> capture only those we want to follow (accessed in regular case, non in
> >>> ept case). This is exactly what original code is doing, so they are
> >>> either both disgusting or both very nice to follow :)
> >>
> >> The comment is clear: "fold the dirty bit into accessed_dirty by
> >> shifting it one place right".  In the EPT case the comment makes no
> >> sense and it is not obvious that you rely on accessed_dirty=0 even
> >> before that line.
> > It is not obvious that the code relies on accessed_dirty been initialized
> > to the bits the code wants to track at the start of the function. It
> > wasn't for me. With if() it would have been much clearer, but the
> > current way is faster. 
> 
> Sure it is not obvious.  But relying on the mask being zero is a whole
> different level of non-obviousness.
> 
I disagree.

> >> That's why I'd rather have that code out of the PT_GUEST_DIRTY_MASK==0 case.
> >>
> > What problem current code has that you are trying to fix? What _technical_
> > justification you provide?
> 
> Of course there is no technical justification.  Did I ever say otherwise?
> 
I just want to be absolutely sure that we are bikeshedding here.

> > There is no point adding ifdefs where they
> > are clearly not needed just because.
> 
> If you loathe ifdefs so much, you can of course wrap the whole code
> we're talking about with an if().  That takes an extra level of
> indentation, of course.
> 
And that point of doing it is...?

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-29 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-25 10:59 [PATCH v4 00/13] Nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] nEPT: Support LOAD_IA32_EFER entry/exit controls for L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] nEPT: Fix cr3 handling in nested exit and entry Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] nEPT: Fix wrong test in kvm_set_cr3 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:43     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] nEPT: Move common code to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-31  8:36     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] nEPT: make guest's A/D bits depends on guest's paging mode Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] nEPT: Add EPT tables support to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:33     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:24         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:27             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:14                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 16:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:43                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 17:06                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 17:11                         ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-07-30 10:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 11:56     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 12:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 14:22         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 14:36           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] nEPT: Redefine EPT-specific link_shadow_page() Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] nEPT: Nested INVEPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] nEPT: Add nEPT violation/misconfigration support Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:52     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 10:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:43         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 12:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:34             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:11               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:20                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:12                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:24                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 16:36                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:54                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] nEPT: MMU context for nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] nEPT: Advertise EPT to L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:11     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:35         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] nEPT: Some additional comments Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] nEPT: Miscelleneous cleanups Gleb Natapov

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