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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Abel Gordon <ABELG@il.ibm.com>
Cc: abel.gordon@gmail.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws, asias@redhat.com,
	bsd@redhat.com, digitaleric@google.com,
	Eran Raichstein <ERANRA@il.ibm.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Joel Nider <JOELN@il.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, Razya Ladelsky <RAZYA@il.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Elvis upstreaming plan
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:21:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131127092159.GP959@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF4A2E06D6.6E6A696D-ONC2257C30.0031E714-C2257C30.003320A5@il.ibm.com>

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:18:26AM +0200, Abel Gordon wrote:
> 
> 
> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote on 27/11/2013 09:35:01 AM:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:49:20AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > 4. vhost statistics
> > > > This patch introduces a set of statistics to monitor different
> > performance
> > > > metrics of vhost and our polling and I/O scheduling mechanisms. The
> > > > statistics are exposed using debugfs and can be easily displayed with
> a
> > > > Python script (vhost_stat, based on the old kvm_stats)
> > > > https://github.com/abelg/virtual_io_acceleration/commit/
> > ac14206ea56939ecc3608dc5f978b86fa322e7b0
> > >
> > > How about using trace points instead? Besides statistics, it can also
> > > help more in debugging.
> > Definitely. kvm_stats has moved to ftrace long time ago.
> >
> 
> We should use trace points for debugging information  but IMHO we should
> have a dedicated (and different) mechanism to expose data that can be
> easily consumed by a user-space (policy) application to control how many
> vhost threads we need or any other vhost feature we may introduce
> (e.g. polling). That's why we proposed something like vhost_stat
> based on sysfs.
> 
> This is not like kvm_stat that can be replaced with tracepoints. Here
> we will like to expose data to "control" the system. So I would
> say what we are trying to do something that resembles the ksm interface
> implemented under /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/
There are control operation and there are performance/statistic
gathering operations use /sys for former and ftrace for later. The fact
that you need /sys interface for other things does not mean you can
abuse it for statistics too.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-27  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-24  9:22 Elvis upstreaming plan Razya Ladelsky
2013-11-24 10:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 11:06   ` Razya Ladelsky
2013-11-26 15:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-11-26 18:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-11-26 18:53   ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-26 21:11     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27  7:43       ` Joel Nider
2013-11-27 10:27         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 10:41           ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 10:59             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 11:02               ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 11:36                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 22:33             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-11-28  8:25               ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 15:00         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-11-27 15:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28  7:24           ` Joel Nider
2013-11-28  7:31           ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-28 11:01             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-02 15:11             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-11-27  9:03       ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27  9:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27  9:49           ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 10:29             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 10:55               ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 11:03                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 11:05                   ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 11:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 22:27 ` Bandan Das
2013-11-27  2:49 ` Jason Wang
2013-11-27  7:35   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-27  7:45     ` Joel Nider
2013-11-27  9:18     ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27  9:21       ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-11-27  9:33         ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27  9:48           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-27 10:18   ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 10:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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