From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Abel Gordon <ABELG@il.ibm.com>
Cc: abel.gordon@gmail.com, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
digitaleric@google.com, Eran Raichstein <ERANRA@il.ibm.com>,
Eyal Moscovici <EYALMO@il.ibm.com>,
gleb@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
Joel Nider <JOELN@il.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
Razya Ladelsky <RAZYA@il.ibm.com>,
Yossi Kuperman1 <YOSSIKU@il.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Elvis upstreaming plan
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:40:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131127114003.GG29702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF9155D82E.1926E162-ONC2257C30.003CB265-C2257C30.003CF1A0@il.ibm.com>
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 01:05:40PM +0200, Abel Gordon wrote:
> > > (CCing Eyal Moscovici who is actually prototyping with multiple
> > > policies and may want to join this thread)
> > >
> > > Starting with basic policies: we can use a single vhost thread
> > > and create new vhost threads if it becomes saturated and there
> > > are enough cpu cycles available in the system
> > > or if the latency (how long the requests in the virtio queues wait
> > > until they are handled) is too high.
> > > We can merge threads if the latency is already low or if the threads
> > > are not saturated.
> > >
> > > There is a hidden trade-off here: when you run more vhost threads you
> > > may actually be stealing cpu cycles from the vcpu threads and also
> > > increasing context switches. So, from the vhost perspective it may
> > > improve performance but from the vcpu threads perspective it may
> > > degrade performance.
> >
> > So this is a very interesting problem to solve but what does
> > management know that suggests it can solve it better?
>
> Yep, and Eyal is currently working on this.
> What the management knows ? depends who the management is :)
> Could be just I/O activity (black-box: I/O request rate, I/O
> handling rate, latency)
We know much more about this than managament, don't we?
> or application performance (white-box).
This would have to come with a proposal for getting
this white-box info out of guest somehow.
--
MSR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-27 11:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-24 9:22 Elvis upstreaming plan Razya Ladelsky
2013-11-24 10:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 11:06 ` Razya Ladelsky
2013-11-26 15:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-11-26 18:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-11-26 18:53 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-26 21:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 7:43 ` Joel Nider
2013-11-27 10:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 10:41 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 10:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 11:02 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 22:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-11-28 8:25 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 15:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-11-27 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28 7:24 ` Joel Nider
2013-11-28 7:31 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-28 11:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-02 15:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-11-27 9:03 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 9:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 9:49 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 10:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 10:55 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 11:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 11:05 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 11:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-11-26 22:27 ` Bandan Das
2013-11-27 2:49 ` Jason Wang
2013-11-27 7:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-27 7:45 ` Joel Nider
2013-11-27 9:18 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 9:21 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-27 9:33 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 9:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-27 10:18 ` Abel Gordon
2013-11-27 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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