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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@minantech.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Zhanghaoyu (A)" <haoyu.zhang@huawei.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@cloudius-systems.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>,
	"Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jinxin (F)" <jinxin712@huawei.com>,
	Luonengjun <luonengjun@huawei.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Zanghongyong <zanghongyong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 11:19:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131128091903.GA4609@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5297050E.6000700@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 09:55:42AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 28/11/2013 07:27, Zhanghaoyu (A) ha scritto:
> >> >Without synchronize_rcu you could have
> >> >
> >> >    VCPU writes to routing table
> >> >                                       e = entry from IRQ routing table
> >> >    kvm_irq_routing_update(kvm, new);
> >> >    VCPU resumes execution
> >> >                                       kvm_set_msi_irq(e, &irq);
> >> >                                       kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast();
> >> >
> >> >where the entry is stale but the VCPU has already resumed execution.
> >> >
> > If we use call_rcu()(Not consider the problem that Gleb pointed out temporarily) instead of synchronize_rcu(), should we still ensure this?
> 
> The problem is that we should ensure this, so using call_rcu is not
> possible (even not considering the memory allocation problem).
>
 
Not changing current behaviour is certainly safer, but I am still not 100%
convinced we have to ensure this.

Suppose guest does:

1: change msi interrupt by writing to pci register
2: read the pci register to flush the write
3: zero idt

I am pretty certain that this code can get interrupt after step 2 on real HW,
but I cannot tell if guest can rely on it to be delivered exactly after
read instruction or it can be delayed by couple of instructions. Seems to me
it would be fragile for an OS to depend on this behaviour. AFAIK Linux does not.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-28  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26 12:40 [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:56   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 13:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  3:46       ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 16:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:14       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-30  2:46           ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 13:18   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 13:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:36       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 14:46         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:54           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:03             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:20               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:25                 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:35                     ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:58                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:06                         ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:11                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:21                             ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:42                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:08                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:24                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:27                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:38                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:29                     ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:37                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  6:27                 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28  8:55                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  9:19                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-11-28  9:29                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  9:43                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  9:49                       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28  9:53                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:16                           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:40                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:47                               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:09                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:10                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:16                                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:23                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:31                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:33                                       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 10:12                           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:02                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:18                               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:22                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:30                                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:33                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28 11:33                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:24               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28  9:14                 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28  9:20                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:50   ` Gleb Natapov

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