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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@minantech.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	pmatouse@redhat.com, stable@vger.kernel.org, larsbull@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: fix guest-initiated crash with x2apic (CVE-2013-6376)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 18:22:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131216162242.GH21068@minantech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131216133142.GA3676@hpx.cz>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 02:31:43PM +0100, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> 2013-12-16 13:55+0100, Radim Krčmář:
> > 2013-12-16 14:16+0200, Gleb Natapov:
> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:01:10PM +0100, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> > > > > >  - Where does the 'only one supported cluster' come from?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > "only one supported cluster" comes from 8 bit cpuid limitation of KVM's x2apic
> > > > > implementation. With 8 bit cpuid you can only address cluster 0 in logical mode.
> > > > 
> > > > One x2apic cluster has 16 cpus and we generate the x2apic LDR correctly,
> > > > so 8 bit cpuid can address first 16 clusters as well.
> > > > 
> > > >   u32 ldr = ((id >> 4) << 16) | (1 << (id & 0xf));
> > > > 
> > > Interrupt from a device cannot generate such ldr, only IPI can. Only
> > > 4 cpus in cluster zero are addressable in clustering mode by a
> > > device. Without irq remapping x2apic is a PV interface between host
> > > and guest where guest needs to know KVM implementation's limitation to
> > > use it.
> > 
> > Thanks, I'll read more about devices ... still no idea how could they
> > address cluster > 15.
> > 
With irq remapping device they will be able to provide 32bit apic addresses.

> > >         I do not see a point in fixing problems in x2apic logical mode
> > > emulation right now since it will not make it usable, as long as
> > > there is not security problems there.
> > 
> > Agreed; I wanted to know why this patch was correct, if we cared.
> > 
> > > > > >    I only see we use 'struct kvm_lapic *logical_map[16][16];', which
> > > > > >    supports 16 clusters of 16 apics = first 256 vcpus, so if we map
> > > > > >    everything to logical_map[0][0:15], we would not work correctly in
> > > > > >    the cluster x2apic, with > 16 vcpus.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Such config cannot work today because of 8 bit cpuid limitation. When the limitation
> > > > > will be removed KMV_X2APIC_CID_BITS will be set to actual number of bits we want to support.
> > > > 
> > > > Even with KMV_X2APIC_CID_BITS = 4, which would allow us to support 8 bit
> > > > cpuid, we would still deliver interrupts destined for cpuid > 256 to
> > > > potentially plugged cpus.
> > > Again, KMV_X2APIC_CID_BITS = 4 will not allow us to support 8 bit cpuids
> > > unfortunately, not sure what you mean by the second part of the sentence.
> > 
> > Sorry, I meant that with this change, we map all clusters to cluster 0,
> > which has two flaws:
> >  - in kvm_lapic_set_base(), the order of vcpu creation determines those
> 
> Gah, should have been 'recalculate_apic_map()' ...
> 
> The patch would be especially surprising with a dynamic adding of vcpus.
> 
> >    assigned to cluster 0, and the rest is unaddressable (overwritten)
> >  - we can send IPI to an unplugged high cpuid and it arives in cluster 0
It does not matter since well behaved guest is not supposed to configure apic like
that.

--
			Gleb.

      reply	other threads:[~2013-12-16 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12 20:36 [PATCH] KVM: x86: fix guest-initiated crash with x2apic (CVE-2013-6376) Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-13 16:07 ` Radim Krčmář
2013-12-13 17:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-13 20:00     ` Radim Krčmář
2013-12-14 10:04     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-12-14  9:46   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-12-16 12:01     ` Radim Krčmář
2013-12-16 12:16       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-12-16 12:55         ` Radim Krčmář
2013-12-16 13:31           ` Radim Krčmář
2013-12-16 16:22             ` Gleb Natapov [this message]

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