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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Mario Smarduch <m.smarduch@samsung.com>
Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, marc.zyngier@arm.com,
	drjones@redhat.com, wei@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] arm, arm64: KVM: handle potential incoherency of readonly memslots
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:18:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141122101835.GJ3401@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546FEBF3.6030401@samsung.com>

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 05:50:43PM -0800, Mario Smarduch wrote:
> On 11/21/2014 03:19 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > Hi Mario,
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:32:31PM -0800, Mario Smarduch wrote:
> >> Hi Laszlo,
> >>
> >> couple observations.
> >>
> >>      I'm wondering if access from qemu and guest won't
> >> result in mixed memory attributes and if that's acceptable
> >> to the CPU.
> >>
> >> Also is if you update memory from qemu you may break
> >> dirty page logging/migration. Unless there is some other way
> >> you keep track. Of course it may not be applicable in your
> >> case (i.e. flash unused after boot).
> >>
> > I'm not concerned about this particular case; dirty page logging exists
> > so KVM can inform userspace when a page may have been dirtied.  If
> > userspace directly dirties (is that a verb?) a page, 
> I would think so, I rely on software too much :)
> > then it already knows that it needs to migrate that page and 
> > deal with it accordingly.
> > 
> > Or did I miss some more subtle point here
> 
> QEMU has a global migration bitmap for all regions initially set
> dirty, and it's updated over iterations with KVM's dirty bitmap. Once
> dirty pages are migrated bits are cleared. If QEMU updates a
> memory region directly I can't see how it's reflected in  that migration
> bitmap that determines what pages should be migrated as it makes
> it's passes. On x86 if host updates guest memory it marks that
> page dirty.
> 
> But virtio writes to guest memory directly and that appears to
> work just fine. I read that code sometime back, and will need to revisit.
> 
In any case, that's a QEMU implementation issue and nothing the kernel
needs to be concerned with.

-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-22 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-17 14:58 [PATCH 1/3] kvm: add a memslot flag for incoherent memory regions Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 14:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm, arm64: KVM: allow forced dcache flush on page faults Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 14:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm, arm64: KVM: handle potential incoherency of readonly memslots Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 15:29   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-17 15:39     ` Marc Zyngier
2014-11-17 16:03       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-17 15:49     ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-19 23:32       ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20  8:08         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-20 18:35           ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20 18:40             ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-20 19:15               ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20 19:49               ` Jon Masters
2014-11-20 20:10                 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-20 21:13                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-20 21:59                     ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-21 11:19         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-22  1:50           ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-22 10:18             ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2014-11-22 10:26               ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-22 12:27             ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19  8:51   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-19 11:02     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 11:03     ` Paolo Bonzini

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