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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] KVM: x86: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:27:17 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141211212717.GA22999@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUjLB1s8_OD6OvHPvsSi5VDk0998DyjnoYeOjarqfFyrg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 01:16:52PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 11/12/2014 21:48, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On 12/10/2014 07:07 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:37:57AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/12/2014 21:57, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >>>>> For the hrtimer which emulates the tscdeadline timer in the guest,
> >>>>> add an option to advance expiration, and busy spin on VM-entry waiting
> >>>>> for the actual expiration time to elapse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This allows achieving low latencies in cyclictest (or any scenario
> >>>>> which requires strict timing regarding timer expiration).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Reduces cyclictest avg latency by 50%.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Note: this option requires tuning to find the appropriate value
> >>>>> for a particular hardware/guest combination. One method is to measure the
> >>>>> average delay between apic_timer_fn and VM-entry.
> >>>>> Another method is to start with 1000ns, and increase the value
> >>>>> in say 500ns increments until avg cyclictest numbers stop decreasing.
> >>>>
> >>>> What values are you using in practice for the parameter?
> >>>
> >>> 7us.
> >>
> >> It takes 7us to get from TSC deadline expiration to the *start* of
> >> vmresume?  That seems rather extreme.
> >
> > No, to the end.  7us is 21000 clock cycles, and the vmexit+vmentry alone
> > costs about 1300.
> >
> 
> I suspect that something's massively wrong with context switching,
> then -- it deserves to be considerably faster than that.  The
> architecturally expensive bits are vmresume, interrupt delivery, and
> iret, but iret is only ~300 cycles and interrupt delivery should be
> under 1k cycles.
> 
> Throw in a few hundred more cycles for whatever wrmsr idiocy is going
> on somewhere in the process, and we're still nowhere near 21k cycles.


          <idle>-0     [003] d..h2.. 1991756745496752: apic_timer_fn
<-__run_hrtimer
          <idle>-0     [003] dN.h2.. 1991756745498732: tick_program_event <-hrtimer_interrupt
          <idle>-0     [003] d...3.. 1991756745502112: sched_switch: prev_comm=swapper/3 prev_pid=0 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm=qemu-system-x86 next_pid=20114 next_prio=98
          <idle>-0     [003] d...2.. 1991756745502592: __context_tracking_task_switch <-__schedule
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] ....1.. 1991756745503916: kvm_arch_vcpu_load <-kvm_sched_in
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] ....... 1991756745505320: kvm_cpu_has_pending_timer <-kvm_vcpu_block
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] ....... 1991756745506260: kvm_cpu_has_pending_timer <-kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] ....... 1991756745507812: kvm_apic_accept_events <-kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] ....... 1991756745508100: kvm_cpu_has_pending_timer <-kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] ....... 1991756745508872: kvm_apic_accept_events <-vcpu_enter_guest
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] ....1.. 1991756745510040: vmx_save_host_state <-vcpu_enter_guest
 qemu-system-x86-20114 [003] d...2.. 1991756745511876: kvm_entry: vcpu 1


1991756745511876 - 1991756745496752 = 15124

The timestamps are TSC reads.

This is patched to run without ksoftirqd. Consider:

The LAPIC is programmed to the next earliest event by hrtimer_interrupt.
VM-entry is processing KVM_REQ_DEACTIVATE_FPU, KVM_REQ_EVENT.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-11 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-10 20:57 [patch 0/2] KVM: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration (v3) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-10 20:57 ` [patch 1/2] KVM: x86: add method to test PIR bitmap vector Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-10 20:57 ` [patch 2/2] KVM: x86: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-10 23:37   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-11  3:07     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-11 18:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-11 20:48       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-11 20:58         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-11 21:07           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-11 21:37             ` Rik van Riel
2014-12-11 21:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-11 21:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-11 21:27             ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2014-12-11 21:29               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-12 18:35   ` Radim Krcmar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-12-10 17:06 [patch 0/2] KVM: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-10 17:06 ` [patch 2/2] KVM: x86: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-10 17:11   ` Rik van Riel
2014-12-10 16:53 [patch 0/2] KVM: " Marcelo.Tosatti
2014-12-10 16:53 ` [patch 2/2] KVM: x86: " Marcelo.Tosatti
2014-12-10 17:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-10 17:34     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-10 17:53       ` Paolo Bonzini

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