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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:41:39 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141217174139.GA31721@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141217145805.GA29368@potion.brq.redhat.com>

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 03:58:13PM +0100, Radim Krcmar wrote:
> 2014-12-16 09:08-0500, Marcelo Tosatti:
> > For the hrtimer which emulates the tscdeadline timer in the guest,
> > add an option to advance expiration, and busy spin on VM-entry waiting
> > for the actual expiration time to elapse.
> > 
> > This allows achieving low latencies in cyclictest (or any scenario 
> > which requires strict timing regarding timer expiration).
> > 
> > Reduces average cyclictest latency from 12us to 8us
> > on Core i5 desktop.
> > 
> > Note: this option requires tuning to find the appropriate value 
> > for a particular hardware/guest combination. One method is to measure the 
> > average delay between apic_timer_fn and VM-entry. 
> > Another method is to start with 1000ns, and increase the value
> > in say 500ns increments until avg cyclictest numbers stop decreasing.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
> 
> Reviewed-by: Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
> 
> > +++ kvm/arch/x86/kvm/lapic.c
> > @@ -1087,11 +1089,64 @@ static void apic_timer_expired(struct kv
> [...]
> > +/*
> > + * On APICv, this test will cause a busy wait
> > + * during a higher-priority task.
> > + */
> 
> (A bit confusing ... this test doesn't busy wait.)
> 
> > +
> > +static bool lapic_timer_int_injected(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> [...]
> > +void wait_lapic_expire(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > +{
> [...]
> > +	tsc_deadline = apic->lapic_timer.expired_tscdeadline;
> > +	apic->lapic_timer.expired_tscdeadline = 0;
> > +	guest_tsc = kvm_x86_ops->read_l1_tsc(vcpu, native_read_tsc());
> > +
> > +	while (guest_tsc < tsc_deadline) {
> > +		int delay = min(tsc_deadline - guest_tsc, 1000ULL);
> 
> Why break the __delay() loop into smaller parts?

So that you can handle interrupts, in case this code ever moves
outside IRQ protected region.

> > +		__delay(delay);
> 
> (Does not have to call delay_tsc, but I guess it won't change.)
> 
> > +		guest_tsc = kvm_x86_ops->read_l1_tsc(vcpu, native_read_tsc());
> > +	}
> >  }
> >  
> 
> Btw. simple automatic delta tuning had worse results?

Haven't tried automatic tuning.

So what happens on a realtime environment is this: you execute the fixed
number of instructions from interrupt handling all the way to VM-entry.

Well, almost fixed. Fixed is the number of apic_timer_fn plus KVM
instructions. You can also execute host scheduler and timekeeping 
processing.

In practice, the length to execute that instruction sequence is a bell
shaped normal distribution around the average (the right side is
slightly higher due to host scheduler and timekeeping processing).

You want to advance the timer by the rightmost bucket, that way you
guarantee lower possible latencies (which is the interest here).

That said, i don't see advantage in automatic tuning for the usecase 
which this targets.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-17 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16 14:08 [patch 0/3] KVM: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration (v5) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-16 14:08 ` [patch 1/3] KVM: x86: add method to test PIR bitmap vector Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-17 14:45   ` Radim Krcmar
2014-12-16 14:08 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-17 14:58   ` Radim Krcmar
2014-12-17 17:41     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2014-12-17 17:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-17 19:36       ` Radim Krcmar
2014-12-18 12:24         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-23 13:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-16 14:08 ` [patch 3/3] KVM: x86: add tracepoint to wait_lapic_expire Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-17 15:06   ` Radim Krcmar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-12-23 20:58 [patch 0/3] KVM: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration (v6) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-23 20:58 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-05 18:12   ` Radim Krcmar
2015-01-05 18:20     ` Radim Krcmar
2015-01-08 17:41     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-08 21:44       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-15 22:06 [patch 0/3] KVM: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration (v4) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-15 22:06 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: add option to advance tscdeadline hrtimer expiration Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-16 14:34   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-16 15:13     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-12-16 15:18       ` Paolo Bonzini

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