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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] arm/arm64: KVM: Flush caches to memory on unmap
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:13:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150112201352.GD26222@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B3ACD6.9080509@arm.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:15:34AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On 11/01/15 12:30, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 02:35:49PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >> On 09/01/15 12:30, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 11:59:08AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >>>> Let's assume a guest has created an uncached mapping, and written
> >>>> to that page. Let's also assume that the host uses a cache-coherent
> >>>> IO subsystem. Let's finally assume that the host is under memory
> >>>> pressure and starts to swap things out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Before this "uncached" page is evicted, we need to make sure it
> >>>> gets invalidated, or the IO subsystem is going to swap out the
> >>>> cached view, loosing the data that has been written there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  arch/arm/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h   | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>  arch/arm/kvm/mmu.c               | 46 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
> >>>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h | 18 ++++++++++++++++
> >>>>  3 files changed, 80 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h b/arch/arm/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h
> >>>> index 63e0ecc..7ceb836 100644
> >>>> --- a/arch/arm/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h
> >>>> +++ b/arch/arm/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h
> >>>> @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@
> >>>>  
> >>>>  #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__
> >>>>  
> >>>> +#include <linux/highmem.h>
> >>>>  #include <asm/cacheflush.h>
> >>>>  #include <asm/pgalloc.h>
> >>>>  
> >>>> @@ -190,6 +191,36 @@ static inline void coherent_cache_guest_page(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, hva_t hva,
> >>>>  
> >>>>  #define kvm_virt_to_phys(x)		virt_to_idmap((unsigned long)(x))
> >>>>  
> >>>> +static inline void __kvm_flush_dcache_pte(pte_t pte)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	void *va = kmap_atomic(pte_page(pte));
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	kvm_flush_dcache_to_poc(va, PAGE_SIZE);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	kunmap_atomic(va);
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>> +static inline void __kvm_flush_dcache_pmd(pmd_t pmd)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	unsigned long size = PMD_SIZE;
> >>>> +	pfn_t pfn = pmd_pfn(pmd);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	while (size) {
> >>>> +		void *va = kmap_atomic_pfn(pfn);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +		kvm_flush_dcache_to_poc(va, PAGE_SIZE);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +		pfn++;
> >>>> +		size -= PAGE_SIZE;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +		kunmap_atomic(va);
> >>>> +	}
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>> +static inline void __kvm_flush_dcache_pud(pud_t pud)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>>  void stage2_flush_vm(struct kvm *kvm);
> >>>>  
> >>>>  #endif	/* !__ASSEMBLY__ */
> >>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/arm/kvm/mmu.c
> >>>> index 1dc9778..1f5b793 100644
> >>>> --- a/arch/arm/kvm/mmu.c
> >>>> +++ b/arch/arm/kvm/mmu.c
> >>>> @@ -58,6 +58,21 @@ static void kvm_tlb_flush_vmid_ipa(struct kvm *kvm, phys_addr_t ipa)
> >>>>  		kvm_call_hyp(__kvm_tlb_flush_vmid_ipa, kvm, ipa);
> >>>>  }
> >>>>  
> >>>> +static void kvm_flush_dcache_pte(pte_t pte)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	__kvm_flush_dcache_pte(pte);
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>> +static void kvm_flush_dcache_pmd(pmd_t pmd)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	__kvm_flush_dcache_pmd(pmd);
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>> +static void kvm_flush_dcache_pud(pud_t pud)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	__kvm_flush_dcache_pud(pud);
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>>  static int mmu_topup_memory_cache(struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache *cache,
> >>>>  				  int min, int max)
> >>>>  {
> >>>> @@ -128,9 +143,12 @@ static void unmap_ptes(struct kvm *kvm, pmd_t *pmd,
> >>>>  	start_pte = pte = pte_offset_kernel(pmd, addr);
> >>>>  	do {
> >>>>  		if (!pte_none(*pte)) {
> >>>> +			pte_t old_pte = *pte;
> >>>>  			kvm_set_pte(pte, __pte(0));
> >>>> -			put_page(virt_to_page(pte));
> >>>
> >>> was this a bug beforehand that we released the page before we flushed
> >>> the TLB?
> >>
> >> I don't think so. TLB maintenance doesn't require the mapping to exist
> >> in the page tables (while the cache maintenance do).
> >>
> > 
> > duh, the put_page is the ref counting on the page table itself, not the
> > underlying memory page.  Forget what I asked.
> > 
> >>>>  			kvm_tlb_flush_vmid_ipa(kvm, addr);
> >>>> +			if ((pte_val(old_pte) & PAGE_S2_DEVICE) != PAGE_S2_DEVICE)
> >>>> +				kvm_flush_dcache_pte(old_pte);
> >>>
> >>> this is confusing me: We are only flushing the cache for cached stage-2
> >>> mappings?  Weren't we trying to flush the cache for uncached mappings?
> >>> (we obviously also need flush a cached stage-2 mapping but where the
> >>> guest is mapping it as uncached, but we don't know that easily).
> >>>
> >>> Am I missing something completely here?
> >>
> >> I think you must be misreading something:
> >> - we want to invalidate mappings because the guest may have created an
> >> uncached mapping
> > 
> > I don't quite understand: we are invalidating mappings because the page
> > is being swapped out (and the guest must fault if it tries to access it
> > again).  Not because the guest may have created an uncached mapping,
> > that's just an aspect of the situation.  Or am I thinking about this the
> > wrong way?
> 
> My wording was quite ambiguous. Indeed, we're removing the mapping
> because the page is being evicted. In a perfect and ideal world (where
> the guest doesn't do anything silly and everything is cache coherent),
> we shouldn't have to do anything cache wise. But see below.
> 
> >> - as we cannot know about the guest's uncached mappings, we flush things
> >> unconditionally (basically anything that is RAM).
> > 
> > so isn't the problem that the host may have an invalid cached view of
> > the data, so we need to invalidate that view, not flush the invalid data
> > to RAM?  Does the kernel take care of that somewhere else for a
> > cache-coherent IO subsystem?
> 
> There is two potential problems:
> 
> - The guest has created an uncached mapping, and you have a cache
> coherent IO subsystem: we need to invalidate the cached view. But since
> we don't know where that mapping is (as we don't track guest mappings),
> we must do a clean+invalidate in order not to corrupt cached mappings.

so here you have:

CACHE=dirty random old data
RAM=data that the guest wrote

now your IO subsystem will read from the cache, which is bad.  But when
you do a clean+invalidate, you get:

CACHE=invalidated
RAM=dirty random old data

I still don't get it...

> 
> - The guest has cached mappings (that's the usual case), and the IO
> subsystem is not cache-coherent. In this case, the kernel knows about
> this and will do the clean operation for us.
> 
> The main problem is that we cannot identify any of these two cases: we
> don't know if the IO path is coherent or not, and we don't know about
> uncached mappings. The only safe thing to do is to perform the
> clean+invalidate, always.
> 
> I wish we had a way to identify uncached mappings, That would save us a
> lot of over-maintenance and some very tricky games we play at the MMU level.
> 
> Does the above make things clearer?
> 
The clarification about the host doing the clearning for us for a
non-coherent cache system is perfectly clear, but as I say above, I
still don't quite get the other case.

Thanks,
-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-12 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-08 11:59 [PATCH 0/4] arm/arm64: KVM: Random selection of MM related fixes Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 11:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: Correct ordering of *_clear_flush_young_notify Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 13:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-08 19:00   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2015-01-12 10:15     ` Steve Capper
2015-01-08 11:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm/arm64: KVM: Use set/way op trapping to track the state of the caches Marc Zyngier
2015-01-09 11:19   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-09 11:38     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-09 12:12       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-08 11:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm/arm64: KVM: Flush caches to memory on unmap Marc Zyngier
2015-01-09 12:30   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-09 14:35     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-11 12:30       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-12 11:15         ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-12 20:13           ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2015-01-13 13:47             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-13 13:57               ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 11:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm/arm64: KVM: use kernel mapping to perform invalidation on page fault Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 12:30   ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-08 13:07     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 13:16       ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-08 15:06         ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 15:21           ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-09 12:50             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-09 13:03               ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-09 14:16                 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-09 15:28                   ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-09 17:18                     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-11 12:33                     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-11 17:37                       ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-11 17:58                         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-11 18:27                           ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-11 18:38                             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-12  9:58                               ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-12 20:10                                 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-13 11:38                                   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-13 12:04                                     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-13 12:12                                       ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-13 13:35                                         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-13 13:41                                           ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-13 13:49                                             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-15 12:00                                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-15 13:00                                             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-01-15 15:47                                               ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-09 12:51   ` Christoffer Dall

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