From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: x86: kvm: Revert "remove sched notifier for cross-cpu migrations"
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:13:17 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150325231317.GA7144@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXiAyM78Zc2hfF8FjLEfCDt3ehwkty03ZYMsKz+rCpdUQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 03:48:02PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 03:33:10PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Mar 25, 2015 2:29 PM, "Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 01:52:15PM +0100, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> >> > > 2015-03-25 12:08+0100, Radim Krčmář:
> >> > > > Reverting the patch protects us from any migration, but I don't think we
> >> > > > need to care about changing VCPUs as long as we read a consistent data
> >> > > > from kvmclock. (VCPU can change outside of this loop too, so it doesn't
> >> > > > matter if we return a value not fit for this VCPU.)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think we could drop the second __getcpu if our kvmclock was being
> >> > > > handled better; maybe with a patch like the one below:
> >> > >
> >> > > The second __getcpu is not neccessary, but I forgot about rdtsc.
> >> > > We need to either use rtdscp, know the host has synchronized tsc, or
> >> > > monitor VCPU migrations. Only the last one works everywhere.
> >> >
> >> > The vdso code is only used if host has synchronized tsc.
> >> >
> >> > But you have to handle the case where host goes from synchronized tsc to
> >> > unsynchronized tsc (see the clocksource notifier in the host side).
> >> >
> >>
> >> Can't we change the host to freeze all vcpus and clear the stable bit
> >> on all of them if this happens? This would simplify and speed up
> >> vclock_gettime.
> >>
> >> --Andy
> >
> > Seems interesting to do on 512-vcpus, but sure, could be done.
> >
>
> If you have a 512-vcpu system that switches between stable and
> unstable more than once per migration, then I expect that you have
> serious problems and this is the least of your worries.
>
> Personally, I'd *much* rather we just made vcpu 0's pvti authoritative
> if we're stable. If nothing else, I'm not even remotely convinced
> that the current scheme gives monotonic timing due to skew between
> when the updates happen on different vcpus.
Can you write down the problem ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-25 23:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-23 23:21 x86: kvm: Revert "remove sched notifier for cross-cpu migrations" Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-23 23:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-24 15:34 ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-24 22:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-25 11:08 ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-25 12:52 ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-25 21:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-25 22:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-25 22:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-25 22:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-25 23:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2015-03-25 23:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 11:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-26 18:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 20:31 ` Radim Krcmar
2015-03-26 20:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 22:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 22:56 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-26 23:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 23:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-26 23:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 23:38 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-26 18:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 20:10 ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-26 20:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-24 22:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-25 11:09 ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-25 13:06 ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-26 20:59 ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-26 22:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-26 22:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 22:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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