From: Steve Rutherford <srutherford@google.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, ahonig@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: x86: Add EOI exit bitmap inference
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:21:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150514232120.GB21835@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1431642919.3625.148.camel@redhat.com>
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 04:35:19PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 15:10 -0700, Steve Rutherford wrote:
> > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:04:40AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 17:46 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 14/05/2015 17:23, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > > > > Would irq_ack_notifiers be used at all with this patch set? Resampling
> > > > > > of IOAPIC level-triggered interrupts would be implemented in userspace.
> > > > > > For the same reason, assigned devices using legacy device assignment
> > > > > > probably would not be able to use INTX (so this feature should depend on
> > > > > > !KVM_DEVICE_ASSIGNMENT). Add the emulated i8254 and the last user of
> > > > > > irq_ack_notifiers goes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alex, how does VFIO do INTX resampling if you're using TCG or -machine
> > > > > > kernel_irqchip=off? (Context: this series keeps the local APIC
> > > > > > emulation in the kernel, thus including MSI, but moves the IOAPIC
> > > > > > emualtion to userspace).
> > > > >
> > > > > Without KVM irqchip, we use a rudimentary approach where we disable
> > > > > mmaps to the device when an interrupt occurs. This makes us trap all
> > > > > accesses to the device. We then handle any device access from the guest
> > > > > as a potential EOI and unmask the interrupt. If the interrupt re-fires,
> > > > > we've at least rate-limited it. If it doesn't, a timer eventually
> > > > > re-enables devices mmaps. It's not very efficient, but it works (for
> > > > > both PCI and platform devices) and avoids IRQ APIs through QEMU that get
> > > > > very platform/machine specific. Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > If we move the IOAPIC back to userspace, it probably would be easier to
> > > > implement irqfd/resamplefd in userspace as well. Let the bikeshedding
> > > > start!
> > >
> > > The current solution is merely functional with the benefit of being
> > > architecture and machine-type independent. If someone actually cared
> > > about vfio assigned device performance without KVM irqchip, we'd
> > > certainly need a more deterministic and efficient EOI path. Thanks,
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> >
> > I'd like this feature to not preclude fast /modern/ device assignment
> > (i.e. devices using MSIs). A perf hit (or even incompatibility) for
> > legacy devices is fine [that's sort of the premise of this patchset].
> > What's necessary for the device assignment to work with the split
> > irqchip?
>
> The current code will attempt to use kvm_irqchip_add_msi_route() and
> kvm_irqchip_add_irqfd_notifier() to route the MSI through the KVM
> irqchip. Without that, QEMU will receive the MSI eventfd and call
> msi_notify() or msix_notify(), which would be significantly slower.
> This should be pretty much the same as virtio, which you've hopefully
> already taken into consideration. Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
Those will be easy to update, given that the routing table is staying in the kernel. The notion of "kvm_irqchip_in_kernel" will need to be updated when support for this is added to QEMU, but that's not a huge deal.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-14 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-13 1:47 [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: x86: Split the APIC from the rest of IRQCHIP Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13 1:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] KVM: x86: Add KVM exit for IOAPIC EOIs Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13 7:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 22:18 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-24 16:46 ` Avi Kivity
2015-05-27 2:06 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-27 5:32 ` Avi Kivity
2015-05-28 21:58 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13 1:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: x86: Add EOI exit bitmap inference Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13 6:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 8:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 8:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 9:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 10:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 13:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 13:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 22:21 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-15 2:38 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13 7:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 22:24 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-14 9:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 15:23 ` Alex Williamson
2015-05-14 15:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 16:04 ` Alex Williamson
2015-05-14 22:10 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-14 22:35 ` Alex Williamson
2015-05-14 23:21 ` Steve Rutherford [this message]
2015-05-13 1:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] KVM: x86: Add support for local interrupt requests from userspace Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13 6:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 22:41 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-15 13:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 7:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 23:13 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13 7:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: x86: Split the APIC from the rest of IRQCHIP Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 22:10 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-14 9:12 ` Wu, Feng
2015-05-14 19:29 ` Andrew Honig
2015-05-15 1:28 ` Wu, Feng
2015-05-15 5:03 ` Wanpeng Li
2015-05-15 18:10 ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-18 2:11 ` Wanpeng Li
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