From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
xen-devel <Xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 09:19:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150917071920.GA14296@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1442445946.git.luto@kernel.org>
* Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> Setting CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y has an unintended side effect: it silently
> turns all rdmsr and wrmsr operations into the safe variants without
> any checks that the operations actually succeed.
>
> This is IMO awful: it papers over bugs. In particular, KVM gueests
> might be unwittingly depending on this behavior because
> CONFIG_KVM_GUEST currently depends on CONFIG_PARAVIRT. I'm not
> aware of any such problems, but applying this series would be a good
> way to shake them out.
>
> Fix it so that the MSR operations work the same on CONFIG_PARAVIRT=n
> and CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y as long as Xen isn't being used. The Xen
> maintainers are welcome to make a similar change on top of this.
>
> Since there's plenty of time before the next merge window, I think
> we should apply and fix anything that breaks.
No, I think we should at most generate a warning instead, and not crash the kernel
via rdmsr()!
Most big distro kernels on bare metal have CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y (I checked Ubuntu and
Fedora), so we are potentially exposing a lot of users to problems.
Crashing the bootup on an unknown MSR is bad. Many MSR reads and writes are
non-critical and returning the 'safe' result is much better than crashing or
hanging the bootup.
( We should double check that rdmsr()/wrmsr() results are never left
uninitialized, but are set to zero or so, for cases where the return code is not
checked. )
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-17 7:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-16 23:33 [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-16 23:33 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/paravirt: Add _safe to the read_msr and write_msr PV hooks Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-16 23:33 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/paravirt: Add paravirt_{read,write}_msr Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-16 23:33 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/paravirt: Make "unsafe" MSR accesses unsafe even if PARAVIRT=y Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-09-17 9:31 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops Borislav Petkov
2015-09-17 11:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-17 11:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 15:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-17 15:32 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-09-17 15:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-17 15:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 15:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-09-17 15:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 15:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-09-17 15:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 17:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-17 18:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 11:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 12:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 15:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 9:10 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-09-17 15:11 ` Boris Ostrovsky
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