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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Eric Auger <eric.auger@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, eric.auger@st.com,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, b.reynal@virtualopensystems.com,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, patches@linaro.org,
	suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFIO: platform: AMD xgbe reset module
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:03:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151015150321.GA17484@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37917545.AP0MxbQBzK@wuerfel>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 04:55:13PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 15 October 2015 16:46:09 Eric Auger wrote:
> > > 
> > > This is where we'd need a little more changes for this approach. Instead
> > > of unbinding the device from its driver, the idea would be that the
> > > driver remains bound as far as the driver model is concerned, but
> > > it would be in a quiescent state where no other subsystem interacts with
> > > it (i.e. it gets unregistered from networking core or whichever it uses).
> > 
> > Currently we use the same mechanism as for PCI, ie. unbind the native
> > driver and then bind VFIO platform driver in its place. Don't you think
> > changing this may be a pain for user-space tools that are designed to
> > work that way for PCI?
> >
> > My personal preference would be to start with your first proposal since
> > it looks (to me) less complex and "unknown" that the 2d approach.
> 
> We certainly can't easily change from one approach to the other without
> breaking user expectations, so the decision needs to be made carefully.
> 
> The main observation here is that platform devices are unlike PCI in this
> regard because they need extra per-device code. I have argued in the
> past that we should not reuse the "VFIO" name here because it's actually
> something else.  

I've adjusted to consider VFIO a general purpose framework for mapping
device resources into userspace/VMs, and there are certainly a lot of
commonality with both PCI, platform, and potentially other devices for
that to make sense.


> On the other hand, there are a lot of commonalities,
> we just have to make sure we don't try to force the code into one model
> that doesn't really work just to make it look more like PCI VFIO.
> 

But given that we now have code for platform device passthrough that
works in both QEMU and the kernel side and is actually useful for
people, is there a clear technical advantage to go back and rework thaat
at this point?

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of having a single driver bound to a
platform device, and then that's it, but it just feels like that
discussion doesn't necessarily belong in the context of a patch that
'just' seeks to add reset functionality for a specific device for VFIO?

-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-15 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-14 15:33 [PATCH] VFIO: platform: AMD xgbe reset module Eric Auger
2015-10-14 15:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-15  8:08   ` Eric Auger
2015-10-15 11:21     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-15 12:12       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-10-15 13:59         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-15 14:46           ` Eric Auger
2015-10-15 14:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-15 15:03               ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2015-10-15 15:49                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-15 16:35                   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-10-15 16:53             ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-15 19:42               ` Christoffer Dall
2015-10-15 20:26                 ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-16 13:06               ` Eric Auger
2015-10-16 13:26                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-16 13:56                   ` Eric Auger
2015-10-15 14:20         ` Eric Auger
2015-10-15 14:28           ` Arnd Bergmann

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