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From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Peter Hornyack <peterhornyack@google.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Owen Hofmann <osh@google.com>, KVM General <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: What time is it kvm-clock?
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 12:13:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160225111328.GA18319@potion.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160224205323.GB6355@potion.redhat.com>

2016-02-24 21:53+0100, Radim Krčmář:
> 2016-02-24 12:24-0800, Andy Lutomirski:
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Do you find anything incorrect with
>>>  * kvmclock measures the flow of time.
>>>  * time in kvmclock flows at the same rate as host's CLOCK_BOOTTIME.
>>> ?
>> 
>> If we could supply CLOCK_REALTIME as well and advertise that fact to
>> guest userspace (perhaps with a sysctl or similar in the guest to turn
>> it on), it would be *awesome*.  Guests with access to this feature
>> could simply not run ntpd/chronyd.
> 
> I think that pvclock_wall_clock interface is there to do that.
> (If pvclock_vcpu_time_info can provide what is claimed above.)
> 
> If pvclock_wall_clock version field matches with pvclock_vcpu_time_info,

Correction: versioning schemes are independent.  (pvclock_wall_clock
needs a version because of CPUs that can't atomically access 64 bits.)

> then the guest can add those two and get CLOCK_REALTIME.

pvclock_wall_clock provides CLOCK_REALTIME when pvclock_wall_clock was
0, so the guest can just add them to get current CLOCK_REALTIME.

(The agreement is that CLOCK_REALTIME started in 1970.)

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-25 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-24  2:31 What time is it kvm-clock? Owen Hofmann
2016-02-24  3:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-24 17:35   ` Peter Hornyack
2016-02-24 20:17     ` Radim Krčmář
2016-02-24 20:24       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-24 20:53         ` Radim Krčmář
2016-02-25 11:13           ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2016-02-25 11:22           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-24 23:35     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-24 23:36       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-25  1:19       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-25  3:50         ` Owen Hofmann
2016-02-25 12:20           ` Radim Krčmář
2016-02-26 17:02             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-26 19:30               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-27  0:00                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-25 11:36         ` Radim Krčmář
2016-02-25 12:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-24  3:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-24 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-24 16:44   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-24 17:38     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-24 19:38       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-24 19:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-24 19:52           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-24 19:55         ` Owen Hofmann
2016-02-25 12:22           ` Joao Martins
2016-02-26 15:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti

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