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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Neo Jia <cjia@nvidia.com>, "Song, Jike" <jike.song@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"kraxel@redhat.com" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/4] vfio: Mediated device Core driver
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 06:49:58 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160816064958.1e7e76da@t450s.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F94602C@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:52:30 +0000
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:

> > From: Neo Jia [mailto:cjia@nvidia.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:17 PM
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 03:50:44AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:  
> > > > From: Neo Jia [mailto:cjia@nvidia.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:46 AM
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:30:25AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:  
> > > > > > From: Neo Jia [mailto:cjia@nvidia.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 3:59 AM  
> > > >  
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For NVIDIA vGPU solution we need to know all devices assigned to a VM in
> > > > > > > > one shot to commit resources of all vGPUs assigned to a VM along with
> > > > > > > > some common resources.  
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kirti, can you elaborate the background about above one-shot commit
> > > > > > > requirement? It's hard to understand such a requirement.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I relied in another mail, I really hope start/stop become a per-mdev
> > > > > > > attribute instead of global one, e.g.:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > echo "0/1" >  
> > /sys/class/mdev/12345678-1234-1234-1234-123456789abc/start  
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In many scenario the user space client may only want to talk to mdev
> > > > > > > instance directly, w/o need to contact its parent device. Still take
> > > > > > > live migration for example, I don't think Qemu wants to know parent
> > > > > > > device of assigned mdev instances.  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Having a global /sys/class/mdev/mdev_start doesn't require anybody to know
> > > > > > parent device. you can just do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > echo "mdev_UUID" > /sys/class/mdev/mdev_start
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > echo "mdev_UUID" > /sys/class/mdev/mdev_stop
> > > > > >
> > > > > > without knowing the parent device.
> > > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > > You can look at some existing sysfs example, e.g.:
> > > > >
> > > > > echo "0/1" > /sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu1/online
> > > > >
> > > > > You may also argue why not using a global style:
> > > > >
> > > > > echo "cpu1" > /sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu_online
> > > > > echo "cpu1" > /sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu_offline
> > > > >
> > > > > There are many similar examples...  
> > > >
> > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > My response above is to your question about using the global sysfs entry as you
> > > > don't want to have the global path because
> > > >
> > > > "I don't think Qemu wants to know parent device of assigned mdev instances.".
> > > >
> > > > So I just want to confirm with you that (in case you miss):
> > > >
> > > >     /sys/class/mdev/mdev_start | mdev_stop
> > > >
> > > > doesn't require the knowledge of parent device.
> > > >  
> > >
> > > Qemu is just one example, where your explanation of parent device
> > > makes sense but still it's not good for Qemu to populate /sys/class/mdev
> > > directly. Qemu is passed with the actual sysfs path of assigned mdev
> > > instance, so any mdev attributes touched by Qemu should be put under
> > > that node (e.g. start/stop for live migration usage as I explained earlier).  
> > 
> > Exactly, qemu is passed with the actual sysfs path.
> > 
> > So, QEMU doesn't touch the file /sys/class/mdev/mdev_start | mdev_stop at all.
> > 
> > QEMU will take the sysfs path as input:
> > 
> >  -device
> > vfio-pci,sysfsdev=/sys/bus/mdev/devices/c0b26072-dd1b-4340-84fe-bf338c510818-0,i
> > d=vgpu0  
> 
> no need of passing "id=vgpu0" here. If necessary you can put id as an attribute 
> under sysfs mdev node:
> 
> /sys/bus/mdev/devices/c0b26072-dd1b-4340-84fe-bf338c510818-0/id

QEMU needs an id parameter for devices, libvirt gives devices arbitrary
names, typically hostdev# for assigned devices.  This id is used to
reference the device for hmp/qmp commands.  This is not something the
mdev infrastructure should define.  Thanks,

Alex

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-16 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-03 19:03 [PATCH v6 0/4] Add Mediated device support Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-03 19:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] vfio: Mediated device Core driver Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-04  7:21   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-05  6:13     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-15  9:15       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-09 19:00   ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-12 18:44     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-12 21:16       ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-13  0:37         ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-15  9:38           ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-15 15:59             ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-15 22:09               ` Neo Jia
2016-08-15 22:52                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-15 23:23                   ` Neo Jia
2016-08-16  0:49                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-15 19:59             ` Neo Jia
2016-08-15 22:47               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-08-15 23:54                 ` Neo Jia
2016-08-16  0:18                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-16 20:30                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-08-16 20:51                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-16 21:17                     ` Neo Jia
2016-08-16  0:30               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-16  3:45                 ` Neo Jia
2016-08-16  3:50                   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-16  4:16                     ` Neo Jia
2016-08-16  4:52                       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-16  5:43                         ` Neo Jia
2016-08-16  5:58                           ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-16  6:13                             ` Neo Jia
2016-08-16 21:03                               ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-16 12:49                         ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2016-08-03 19:03 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] vfio: VFIO driver for mediated PCI device Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-03 21:03   ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-04  0:19   ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-09 19:00   ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-10 21:23     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-10 23:00       ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-11 15:59         ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-11 16:24           ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-11 17:46             ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-11 18:43               ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-12 17:57                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-12 21:25                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-13  0:42                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-03 19:03 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] vfio iommu: Add support for mediated devices Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-09 19:00   ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-11 14:22     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-11 16:28       ` Alex Williamson
2016-08-03 19:03 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] docs: Add Documentation for Mediated devices Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-04  7:31   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-05  7:45     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-24 22:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange

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