From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [QEMU PATCH v2] kvmclock: advance clock by time window between vm_stop and pre_save
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 22:06:09 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161108000609.GA3689@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161107200349.GC1155@work-vm>
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 08:03:50PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Marcelo Tosatti (mtosatti@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 03:46:11PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > * Marcelo Tosatti (mtosatti@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > > This patch, relative to pre-copy migration codepath,
> > > > measures the time between vm_stop() and pre_save(),
> > > > which includes copying the remaining RAM to destination,
> > > > and advances the clock by that amount.
> > > >
> > > > In a VM with 5 seconds downtime, this reduces the guest
> > > > clock difference on destination from 5s to 0.2s.
> > > >
> > > > Tested with Linux and Windows 2012 R2 guests with -cpu XXX,+hv-time.
> > >
> > > One thing that bothers me is that it's only this clock that's
> > > getting corrected; doesn't it cause things to get upset when
> > > one clock moves and the others dont?
> >
> > If you are correlating the clocks, then yes.
> >
> > Older Linux guests get upset (marking the TSC clocksource unstable
> > because the watchdog checks TSC vs kvmclock), but there is a workaround for it
> > in newer guests
> > (kvmclock interface to notify watchdog to not complain).
> >
> > Note marking TSC clocksource unstable on older guests is harmless
> > because kvmclock is the standard clocksource.
> >
> > For Windows guests, i don't know that Windows correlates between different
> > clocks.
> >
> > That is, there is relative control as to which software reads kvmclock
> > or Windows TIMER MSR, so i don't see the need to advance every clock
> > exposed.
> >
> > > Shouldn't the pause delay be recorded somewhere architecturally
> > > independent and then be a thing that kvm-clock happens to use and
> > > other clocks might as well?
> >
> > In theory, yes. In practice, i don't see the need for this...
>
> It seems unlikely to me that x86 is the only one that will want
> to do something similar.
Can't they copy what kvmclock is doing today?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-08 0:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-04 9:43 [QEMU PATCH] kvmclock: advance clock by time window between vm_stop and pre_save Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 12:28 ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-04 12:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 14:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 15:25 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 15:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-04 15:48 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 15:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-04 17:16 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 21:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-04 21:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 22:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-07 14:31 ` Roman Kagan
2016-11-07 19:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 16:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 17:34 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 18:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 20:07 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 16:04 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 17:07 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 17:39 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 18:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-07 13:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-04 16:59 ` [QEMU PATCH v2] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 18:57 ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-07 15:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-07 19:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-07 20:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-08 0:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2016-11-08 10:22 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-08 13:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-09 19:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-09 16:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-09 16:28 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-09 16:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-10 11:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-10 17:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-11 14:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-07 10:02 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-02-07 12:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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