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From: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Christoffer Dall" <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Marc Zyngier" <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: vtime accounting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:41:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170314184133.GG1277@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d205be1-50ab-59cf-9908-dbbe8c939309@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 06:09:45PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 14/03/2017 17:58, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> >> I assume there's a good reason why we call guest_enter() and
> >> guest_exit() in the hot path on every KVM architecture?
> > I consider myself biased when it comes to jiffies, so no judgement. :)
> > 
> > From what I see, the mode switch is used only for statistics.
> 
> vtime is only for statistics, but guest_enter/exit are important because
> they enter an RCU extended quiescent state.  This means that (physical)
> CPUs running a guest are effectively "off" from the point of view of the
> RCU accounting machinery.  Not having to perform any RCU work is very
> good for jitter.
> 

So would it be worth considering factoring out vtime accounting from
guest_enter/exit, such that we could do the vtime accounting from vcpu
load/put and mark the RCU extended quiescent state in the run loop?

Disclaimer: I haven't completely convinced myself that vtime accounting
from load/put works as it should.  For example, when servicing a VM from
KVM, should we really be accounting this as kernel time, or as guest
time?  I think we do the former now, but if the latter is the right
thing, would changing the behavior constitute an ABI change to
userspace?

Thanks,
-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-14 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-08 10:57 vtime accounting Christoffer Dall
2017-03-09  8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-13 17:28 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14  8:26   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14  8:55     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-14 11:12       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 11:46         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-14 16:58     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 17:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-14 18:41         ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2017-03-14 19:32           ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 20:01             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 21:52               ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15  8:09                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15  8:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15  8:30             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 18:39       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 20:27         ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 21:53           ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15  8:43           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-15 15:57             ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15 16:48               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-15 17:09                 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-24 15:04             ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-27 12:29               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-24 14:55     ` Rik van Riel

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