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From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: vtime accounting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:32:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170314193201.GC5432@potion> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170314184133.GG1277@cbox>

2017-03-14 19:41+0100, Christoffer Dall:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 06:09:45PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 14/03/2017 17:58, Radim Krčmář wrote:
>> >> I assume there's a good reason why we call guest_enter() and
>> >> guest_exit() in the hot path on every KVM architecture?
>> > I consider myself biased when it comes to jiffies, so no judgement. :)
>> > 
>> > From what I see, the mode switch is used only for statistics.
>> 
>> vtime is only for statistics, but guest_enter/exit are important because
>> they enter an RCU extended quiescent state.  This means that (physical)
>> CPUs running a guest are effectively "off" from the point of view of the
>> RCU accounting machinery.  Not having to perform any RCU work is very
>> good for jitter.

Ah, good point.

> So would it be worth considering factoring out vtime accounting from
> guest_enter/exit, such that we could do the vtime accounting from vcpu
> load/put and mark the RCU extended quiescent state in the run loop?

RCU is the reason why guest_exit() needs disabled interrupts, so if we
split them, we could do rcu_virt_note_context_switch() before enabling
interrupts, and guest_exit() right after.

> Disclaimer: I haven't completely convinced myself that vtime accounting
> from load/put works as it should.  For example, when servicing a VM from
> KVM, should we really be accounting this as kernel time, or as guest
> time?  I think we do the former now, but if the latter is the right
> thing, would changing the behavior constitute an ABI change to
> userspace?

Not considering that option would be best. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-14 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-08 10:57 vtime accounting Christoffer Dall
2017-03-09  8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-13 17:28 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14  8:26   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14  8:55     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-14 11:12       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 11:46         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-14 16:58     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 17:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-14 18:41         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 19:32           ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2017-03-14 20:01             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 21:52               ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15  8:09                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15  8:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15  8:30             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 18:39       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 20:27         ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 21:53           ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15  8:43           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-15 15:57             ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15 16:48               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-15 17:09                 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-24 15:04             ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-27 12:29               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-24 14:55     ` Rik van Riel

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