From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: vtime accounting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:32:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170314193201.GC5432@potion> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170314184133.GG1277@cbox>
2017-03-14 19:41+0100, Christoffer Dall:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 06:09:45PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 14/03/2017 17:58, Radim Krčmář wrote:
>> >> I assume there's a good reason why we call guest_enter() and
>> >> guest_exit() in the hot path on every KVM architecture?
>> > I consider myself biased when it comes to jiffies, so no judgement. :)
>> >
>> > From what I see, the mode switch is used only for statistics.
>>
>> vtime is only for statistics, but guest_enter/exit are important because
>> they enter an RCU extended quiescent state. This means that (physical)
>> CPUs running a guest are effectively "off" from the point of view of the
>> RCU accounting machinery. Not having to perform any RCU work is very
>> good for jitter.
Ah, good point.
> So would it be worth considering factoring out vtime accounting from
> guest_enter/exit, such that we could do the vtime accounting from vcpu
> load/put and mark the RCU extended quiescent state in the run loop?
RCU is the reason why guest_exit() needs disabled interrupts, so if we
split them, we could do rcu_virt_note_context_switch() before enabling
interrupts, and guest_exit() right after.
> Disclaimer: I haven't completely convinced myself that vtime accounting
> from load/put works as it should. For example, when servicing a VM from
> KVM, should we really be accounting this as kernel time, or as guest
> time? I think we do the former now, but if the latter is the right
> thing, would changing the behavior constitute an ABI change to
> userspace?
Not considering that option would be best. :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-14 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-08 10:57 vtime accounting Christoffer Dall
2017-03-09 8:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-13 17:28 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 8:26 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 8:55 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-14 11:12 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 11:46 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-14 16:58 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 17:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-14 18:41 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 19:32 ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2017-03-14 20:01 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 21:52 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15 8:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15 8:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15 8:30 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 18:39 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-14 20:27 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-14 21:53 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15 8:43 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-15 15:57 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-15 16:48 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-15 17:09 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-24 15:04 ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-27 12:29 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-24 14:55 ` Rik van Riel
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