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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] KVM CPU frequency change hypercalls (resend)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:30:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170315182957.GA7981@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd9ef067-d8a8-04f5-b1e8-1360eb2264a2@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 09:23:10AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 15/03/2017 00:27, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >> So, the question then is how to design the hypervisor so that these NFV
> >> virtual machines can play with cpufreq, but there are no adverse
> >> indefinite effects. 
> > Ok, we can modify the cpufreq cgroups patch, to, from the hypercalls
> > set the:
> > 
> > "The first three patches of this series introduces
> > capacity_{min,max} tracking
> > in the core scheduler, as an extension of the CPU controller."
> > 
> > capacity_min == capacity_max values (which forces the CPU to run
> > at that frequency, given there are no other tasks requesting
> > frequency information on that CPU).
> > 
> > This is good enough DPDK.
> 
> So this sounds like a plan?

Yes, trying that now...

> 
> >> One possibility is to have some kind of per-task
> >> cpufreq.  Another is to do everything in userspace with virtual ACPI
> >> P-states and the userspace governor in the VM.
> >
> > Virtual ACPI P-state, that is an option. But why not make it
> > in-kernel, the exit to userspace can be a significant
> > fraction of the total if the frequency change time is small (say, 10us
> > freq change and 5us for userspace exit).
> 
> The advantage of doing it in userspace is that the sysfs chmod is a
> clear way to say "this VM should have the privilege of setting cpufreq.
>  In effect, userspace's file descriptor for the sysfs files represents
> the capability to set cpufreq for the VM.  You can even pass the file
> descriptor with SCM_RIGHTS if you wish to do so.
> 
> But of course that's only needed if the frequency change is global per
> physical CPU. if the CPU controller gains the ability to do per-task
> frequency switching, that's even better for KVM.  Then the hypercalls
> are just fine and we can have a KVM-specific cpufreq controller.
> 
> Paolo

I see, thanks.

      reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-01 15:04 [patch 0/3] KVM CPU frequency change hypercalls (resend) Marcelo Tosatti
2017-03-01 15:04 ` [patch 1/3] cpufreq: implement min/max/up/down functions Marcelo Tosatti
2017-03-01 15:04 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: introduce ioctl to allow frequency hypercalls Marcelo Tosatti
2017-03-01 15:04 ` [patch 3/3] KVM: x86: frequency change hypercalls Marcelo Tosatti
2017-03-02 10:15 ` [patch 0/3] KVM CPU frequency change hypercalls (resend) Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-02 13:59   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-03-14 16:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-14 23:27       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-03-15  8:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15 18:30           ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]

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