From: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: marc.zyngier@arm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/9] KVM: Add documentation for VCPU requests
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 19:45:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170405174538.GB27123@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170405141139.GA13944@potion>
On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 04:11:40PM +0200, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> 2017-04-04 19:23+0200, Christoffer Dall:
> > On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 07:06:00PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> >> On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 05:24:03PM +0200, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 06:06:51PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> >> > > +and will definitely see the request, or is outside guest mode, but has yet
> >> > > +to do its final request check, and therefore when it does, it will see the
> >> > > +request, then things will work. However, the transition from outside to
> >> > > +inside guest mode, after the last request check has been made, opens a
> >> > > +window where a request could be made, but the VCPU would not see until it
> >> > > +exits guest mode some time later. See the table below.
> >> >
> >> > This text, and the table below, only deals with the details of entering
> >> > the guest. Should we talk about kvm_vcpu_exiting_guest_mode() and
> >> > anything related to exiting the guest?
> >>
> >> I think all !IN_GUEST_MODE should behave the same, so I was avoiding
> >> the use of EXITING_GUEST_MODE and OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE, which wouldn't be
> >> hard to address, but then I'd also have to address
> >> READING_SHADOW_PAGE_TABLES, which may complicate the document more than
> >> necessary. I'm not sure we need to address a VCPU exiting guest mode,
> >> other than making sure it's clear that a VCPU that exits must check
> >> requests before it enters again.
> >
> > But the problem is that kvm_make_all_cpus_request() only sends IPIs to
> > CPUs where the mode was different from OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE, so there it's
> > about !OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE rather than !IN_GUEST_MODE, so there's some
> > subtlety here which I feel like it's dangerous to paper over.
>
> Right, that needs fixing in the code.
Really? I thought Paolo said that this is the intended behavior and
semantics; non-urgent requests that should just be serviced before the
next guest entry.
Now I'm confused again. What did I miss?
>
> guest_mode is just an optimization that allows us to skip sending the
> IPI when the VCPU is known to handle the request as soon as possible.
>
> IN_GUEST_MODE: we must force VM exit or the request could never be
> handled
> EXITING_GUEST_MODE: another request already forces the VM exit and
> we're just waiting for the VCPU to notice our request
> OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE: KVM is going to notice our request without any
> intervention
> READING_SHADOW_PAGE_TABLES: same as OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE -- rename to
> unwieldly OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE_READING_SHADOW_PAGE_TABLES?
Again, I thought Paolo was arguing that EXITING_GUEST_MODE makes the
whole thing work because you check that after checking requests?
>
> The kick is needed only in IN_GUEST_MODE and a wake up is needed in case
> where the guest is halted OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE ...
> Hm, maybe we should add a halt state too?
Wouldn't that be swait_active(&vcpu->wq) ? You could add a wrapper
though.
What I think you need is a way to distinguish the semantics of calling
kvm_make_all_cpus_request(), perhaps by adding a 'bool wake_up'
parameter.
I also feel like it would be more reliable or easier to understand if
kvm_make_all_cpus_request() called kvm_vcpu_kick() somehow, but there
may be such an established and understood use of the differences between
the two by other architectures that it's worse to introduce the churn of
changing it. I don't know.
Thanks,
-Christoffer
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-31 16:06 [PATCH v2 0/9] KVM: arm/arm64: race fixes and vcpu requests Andrew Jones
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] KVM: add kvm_request_pending Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:30 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 16:41 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 13:10 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-05 17:39 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 18:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 20:20 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-06 12:02 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-06 14:37 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 15:08 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-07 15:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-08 18:19 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 14:25 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 13:15 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-08 18:23 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-08 19:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-11 21:06 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] KVM: Add documentation for VCPU requests Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:24 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:06 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:23 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 14:11 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-05 17:45 ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2017-04-05 18:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 20:46 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-06 14:29 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 11:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-06 14:27 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 10:18 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-06 12:08 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-06 12:29 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] KVM: arm/arm64: prepare to use vcpu requests Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:34 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:06 ` Andrew Jones
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] KVM: arm/arm64: replace vcpu->arch.pause with a vcpu request Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 13:39 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-04 14:47 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 14:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 15:05 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-04 17:07 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 16:04 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 16:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:19 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:57 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 18:38 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:18 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 18:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:57 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:04 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 20:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 7:09 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 11:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-06 14:14 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 11:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-08 8:35 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] KVM: arm/arm64: replace vcpu->arch.power_off " Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:37 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] KVM: arm/arm64: use a vcpu request on irq injection Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:42 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:27 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 18:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 18:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] KVM: arm/arm64: PMU: remove request-less vcpu kick Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:46 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:29 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:35 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] KVM: arm/arm64: fix race in kvm_psci_vcpu_on Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:42 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 8:35 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 8:50 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 9:12 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 9:30 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] KVM: arm/arm64: avoid race by caching MPIDR Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:44 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 8:50 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 11:03 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 11:14 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-03 15:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] KVM: arm/arm64: race fixes and vcpu requests Christoffer Dall
2017-04-03 17:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 7:27 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 16:05 ` Christoffer Dall
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