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From: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: marc.zyngier@arm.com, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/9] KVM: Add documentation for VCPU requests
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:29:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170406142946.GF27123@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170405204606.GH6369@potion>

On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 10:46:07PM +0200, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> 2017-04-05 20:29+0200, Paolo Bonzini:
> > On 05/04/2017 19:45, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> >>>> But the problem is that kvm_make_all_cpus_request() only sends IPIs to
> >>>> CPUs where the mode was different from OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE, so there it's
> >>>> about !OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE rather than !IN_GUEST_MODE, so there's some
> >>>> subtlety here which I feel like it's dangerous to paper over.
> >>> Right, that needs fixing in the code.
> >> Really?  I thought Paolo said that this is the intended behavior and
> >> semantics; non-urgent requests that should just be serviced before the
> >> next guest entry.
> > 
> > Indeed, that's right...
> > 
> >>> guest_mode is just an optimization that allows us to skip sending the
> >>> IPI when the VCPU is known to handle the request as soon as possible.
> >>>
> >>>   IN_GUEST_MODE: we must force VM exit or the request could never be
> >>>     handled
> >>>   EXITING_GUEST_MODE: another request already forces the VM exit and
> >>>     we're just waiting for the VCPU to notice our request
> >>>   OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE: KVM is going to notice our request without any
> >>>     intervention
> >>>   READING_SHADOW_PAGE_TABLES: same as OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE -- rename to
> >>>     unwieldly OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE_READING_SHADOW_PAGE_TABLES?
> >> Again, I thought Paolo was arguing that EXITING_GUEST_MODE makes the
> >> whole thing work because you check that after checking requests?
> > 
> > ... but apparently I was wrong here, see my email from this morning.
> 
> Ok, I'll prepare a patch that uses kvm_arch_vcpu_should_kick() in
> kvm_make_all_cpus_request().
> 
> >>> The kick is needed only in IN_GUEST_MODE and a wake up is needed in case
> >>> where the guest is halted OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE ...
> >>> Hm, maybe we should add a halt state too?
> >> Wouldn't that be swait_active(&vcpu->wq) ?   You could add a wrapper
> >> though.
> > 
> > Yes.  I think the wrapper is probably unnecessary.
> 
> The state would only make sense if it were different -- there is a time
> when the VCPU is halted, but swait_active(&vcpu->wq) returns false.
> Probably doesn't have any good use now, though.
> 
> >> What I think you need is a way to distinguish the semantics of calling
> >> kvm_make_all_cpus_request(), perhaps by adding a 'bool wake_up'
> >> parameter.
> > 
> > That would be fine.
> 
> I think the wakeup is more tied to the request type than to the place
> calling it, 

agreed

> so we could say which requests are "lazy" and don't do
> wakeup and have kvm_make_all_cpus_request() without an extra argument.

Sounds good to me.

We could encode the lazy/non-lazy thing in a bit in the request number
that gets masked off before clearing/checking the request bit, but
perhaps there are nicer solutions.

> 
> In the end, I would like if kvm_make_all_cpus_request() was an optimized
> variant of
> 
>   kvm_for_each_vcpu(i, vcpu, kvm) {
>     kvm_make_request(vcpu, request);
>     kvm_vcpu_kick(vcpu);
>   }

Yes, I would like this too.

-Christoffer
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-06 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-31 16:06 [PATCH v2 0/9] KVM: arm/arm64: race fixes and vcpu requests Andrew Jones
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] KVM: add kvm_request_pending Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:30   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 16:41     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 13:10       ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-05 17:39         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 18:30           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 20:20           ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-06 12:02             ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-06 14:37               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 15:08                 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-07 15:33                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-08 18:19                     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 14:25             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 13:15               ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-08 18:23                 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-08 19:32                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-11 21:06                     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] KVM: Add documentation for VCPU requests Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:24   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:06     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:23       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:36         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 14:11         ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-05 17:45           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 18:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 20:46               ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-06 14:29                 ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2017-04-07 11:44                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-06 14:27               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 10:18   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-06 12:08     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-06 12:29     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] KVM: arm/arm64: prepare to use vcpu requests Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:34   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:06     ` Andrew Jones
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] KVM: arm/arm64: replace vcpu->arch.pause with a vcpu request Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 13:39   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-04 14:47     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 14:51       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 15:05         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-04 17:07         ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 16:04   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 16:24     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:19       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:57           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:15             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 18:38               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:18           ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 18:59             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:57     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:04       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 20:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05  7:09           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 11:37             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-06 14:14               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 11:47                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-08  8:35                   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] KVM: arm/arm64: replace vcpu->arch.power_off " Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:37   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] KVM: arm/arm64: use a vcpu request on irq injection Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:42   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:27     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 18:59     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 18:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] KVM: arm/arm64: PMU: remove request-less vcpu kick Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:46   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:29     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:35       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] KVM: arm/arm64: fix race in kvm_psci_vcpu_on Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:42   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05  8:35     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05  8:50       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05  9:12         ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05  9:30           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] KVM: arm/arm64: avoid race by caching MPIDR Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:44   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05  8:50     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 11:03       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 11:14         ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-03 15:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] KVM: arm/arm64: race fixes and vcpu requests Christoffer Dall
2017-04-03 17:11   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04  7:27   ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 16:05     ` Christoffer Dall

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