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From: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/2] srcu: Allow use of Tiny/Tree SRCU from both process and interrupt context
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:27:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170606152705.GD6681@osiris> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bea28cb2-162c-57c3-1a9c-cc672aff7f1a@de.ibm.com>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 04:45:57PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> Adding s390 folks and list
> >> Only s390 is TSO, arm64 is very much a weak arch.
> > 
> > Right, and thus arm64 can implement a fast this_cpu_inc using LL/SC.
> > s390 cannot because its atomic_inc has implicit memory barriers.
> > 
> > s390's this_cpu_inc is *faster* than the generic one, but still pretty slow.
> 
> FWIW, we improved the performance of local_irq_save/restore some time ago
> with commit 204ee2c5643199a2 ("s390/irqflags: optimize irq restore") and
> disable/enable seem to be reasonably fast (3-5ns on my system doing both
> disable/enable in a loop) on todays systems. So  I would assume that the
> generic implementation would not be that bad. 
> 
> A the same time, the implicit memory barrier of the atomic_inc should be
> even cheaper. In contrast to x86, a full smp_mb seems to be almost for
> free (looks like <= 1 cycle for a bcr 14,0 and no contention). So I
> _think_ that this should be really fast enough.
> 
> As a side note, I am asking myself, though, why we do need the
> preempt_disable/enable for the cases where we use the opcodes 
> like lao (atomic load and or to a memory location) and friends.

Because you want the atomic instruction to be executed on the local cpu for
which you have to per cpu pointer. If you get preempted to a different cpu
between the ptr__ assignment and lan instruction it might be executed not
on the local cpu. It's not really a correctness issue.

#define arch_this_cpu_to_op(pcp, val, op)				\
{									\
	typedef typeof(pcp) pcp_op_T__;					\
	pcp_op_T__ val__ = (val);					\
	pcp_op_T__ old__, *ptr__;					\
	preempt_disable();						\
	ptr__ = raw_cpu_ptr(&(pcp));					\
	asm volatile(							\
		op "	%[old__],%[val__],%[ptr__]\n"			\
		: [old__] "=d" (old__), [ptr__] "+Q" (*ptr__)		\
		: [val__] "d" (val__)					\
		: "cc");						\
	preempt_enable();						\
}

#define this_cpu_and_4(pcp, val)	arch_this_cpu_to_op(pcp, val, "lan")

However in reality it doesn't matter at all, since all distributions we
care about have preemption disabled.

So this_cpu_inc() should just generate three instructions: two to calculate
the percpu pointer and an additional asi for the atomic increment, with
operand specific serialization. This is supposed to be a lot faster than
disabling/enabling interrupts around a non-atomic operation.

But maybe I didn't get the point of this thread :)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-06 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170605220919.GA27820@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-06-05 22:09 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/2] srcu: Allow use of Tiny/Tree SRCU from both process and interrupt context Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 10:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 12:56     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 13:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-06 14:45       ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-06 15:27         ` Heiko Carstens [this message]
2017-06-06 15:37           ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-06 15:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 16:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 17:00             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 17:20             ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-06 16:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 16:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 11:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 12:01     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-06 12:53       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 15:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 15:59           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 17:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 17:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 18:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 18:22         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-05 22:09 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/2] srcu: Allow use of Classic " Paul E. McKenney

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