From: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
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dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
oleg@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/2] srcu: Allow use of Tiny/Tree SRCU from both process and interrupt context
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:27:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170606152705.GD6681@osiris> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bea28cb2-162c-57c3-1a9c-cc672aff7f1a@de.ibm.com>
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 04:45:57PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> Adding s390 folks and list
> >> Only s390 is TSO, arm64 is very much a weak arch.
> >
> > Right, and thus arm64 can implement a fast this_cpu_inc using LL/SC.
> > s390 cannot because its atomic_inc has implicit memory barriers.
> >
> > s390's this_cpu_inc is *faster* than the generic one, but still pretty slow.
>
> FWIW, we improved the performance of local_irq_save/restore some time ago
> with commit 204ee2c5643199a2 ("s390/irqflags: optimize irq restore") and
> disable/enable seem to be reasonably fast (3-5ns on my system doing both
> disable/enable in a loop) on todays systems. So I would assume that the
> generic implementation would not be that bad.
>
> A the same time, the implicit memory barrier of the atomic_inc should be
> even cheaper. In contrast to x86, a full smp_mb seems to be almost for
> free (looks like <= 1 cycle for a bcr 14,0 and no contention). So I
> _think_ that this should be really fast enough.
>
> As a side note, I am asking myself, though, why we do need the
> preempt_disable/enable for the cases where we use the opcodes
> like lao (atomic load and or to a memory location) and friends.
Because you want the atomic instruction to be executed on the local cpu for
which you have to per cpu pointer. If you get preempted to a different cpu
between the ptr__ assignment and lan instruction it might be executed not
on the local cpu. It's not really a correctness issue.
#define arch_this_cpu_to_op(pcp, val, op) \
{ \
typedef typeof(pcp) pcp_op_T__; \
pcp_op_T__ val__ = (val); \
pcp_op_T__ old__, *ptr__; \
preempt_disable(); \
ptr__ = raw_cpu_ptr(&(pcp)); \
asm volatile( \
op " %[old__],%[val__],%[ptr__]\n" \
: [old__] "=d" (old__), [ptr__] "+Q" (*ptr__) \
: [val__] "d" (val__) \
: "cc"); \
preempt_enable(); \
}
#define this_cpu_and_4(pcp, val) arch_this_cpu_to_op(pcp, val, "lan")
However in reality it doesn't matter at all, since all distributions we
care about have preemption disabled.
So this_cpu_inc() should just generate three instructions: two to calculate
the percpu pointer and an additional asi for the atomic increment, with
operand specific serialization. This is supposed to be a lot faster than
disabling/enabling interrupts around a non-atomic operation.
But maybe I didn't get the point of this thread :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-06 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2017-06-05 22:09 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/2] srcu: Allow use of Tiny/Tree SRCU from both process and interrupt context Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 10:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 12:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 13:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-06 14:45 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-06 15:27 ` Heiko Carstens [this message]
2017-06-06 15:37 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-06 15:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 16:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 17:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 17:20 ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-06 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 12:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-06 12:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 17:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 17:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-06 18:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-06 18:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-05 22:09 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/2] srcu: Allow use of Classic " Paul E. McKenney
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