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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] KVM KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall support
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:59:19 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170926235916.GC10809@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1663b883-a59e-2093-5ccb-308cc7f0bda5@siemens.com>

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 08:23:02AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2017-09-22 03:19, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 07:45:32PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> On 2017-09-21 13:38, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >>> When executing guest vcpu-0 with FIFO:1 priority, which is necessary to
> >>> deal with the following situation:
> >>>
> >>> VCPU-0 (housekeeping VCPU)              VCPU-1 (realtime VCPU)
> >>>
> >>> raw_spin_lock(A)
> >>> interrupted, schedule task T-1          raw_spin_lock(A) (spin)
> >>>
> >>> raw_spin_unlock(A)
> >>>
> >>> Certain operations must interrupt guest vcpu-0 (see trace below).
> >>>
> >>> To fix this issue, only change guest vcpu-0 to FIFO priority
> >>> on spinlock critical sections (see patch).
> >>>
> >>> Hang trace
> >>> ==========
> >>>
> >>> Without FIFO priority:
> >>>
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648964: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xe8fe info 1f00039 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648965: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xe911 info 3f60008 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648968: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0x8984 info 608000b 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648971: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xb313 info 1f70008 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648974: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xb514 info 3f60000 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648977: kvm_exit: reason PENDING_INTERRUPT rip 0x8052 info 0 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648980: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xeee6 info 200040 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-6705  [002] ....1.. 767785.648999: kvm_exit: reason EPT_MISCONFIG rip 0x2120 info 0 0
> >>>
> >>> With FIFO priority:
> >>>
> >>> qemu-kvm-7636  [002] ....1.. 768218.205065: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xb313 info 1f70008 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-7636  [002] ....1.. 768218.205068: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0x8984 info 608000b 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-7636  [002] ....1.. 768218.205071: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xb313 info 1f70008 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-7636  [002] ....1.. 768218.205074: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0x8984 info 608000b 0
> >>> qemu-kvm-7636  [002] ....1.. 768218.205077: kvm_exit: reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0xb313 info 1f70008 0
> >>> ..
> >>>
> >>> Performance numbers (kernel compilation with make -j2)
> >>> ======================================================
> >>>
> >>> With hypercall: 4:40.  (make -j2)
> >>> Without hypercall: 3:38.  (make -j2)
> >>>
> >>> Note for NFV workloads spinlock performance is not relevant
> >>> since DPDK should not enter the kernel (and housekeeping vcpu
> >>> performance is far from a key factor).
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
> >>>
> >>
> >> That sounds familiar, though not yet the same: :)
> >>
> >> http://git.kiszka.org/?p=linux-kvm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/queues/paravirt-sched
> >> (paper: http://lwn.net/images/conf/rtlws11/papers/proc/p18.pdf)
> >>
> >> I suppose your goal is not to enable the host to follow the guest
> >> scheduler priority completely but only to have prio-ceiling for such
> >> short critical sections. Maybe still useful to think ahead about future
> >> extensions when actually introducing such an interface.
> > 
> > Hi Jan!
> > 
> > Hum... I'll take a look at your interface/paper and get back to you.
> > 
> >> But shouldn't there be some limits on the maximum prio the guest can select?
> > 
> > The SCHED_FIFO prio is fixed, selectable when QEMU starts. Do you
> > envision any other use case than a fixed priority value selectable
> > at QEMU initialization?
> 
> Oh, indeed, this is a pure prio-ceiling variant with host-defined
> ceiling value.
> 
> But it's very inefficient to use a hypercall for entering and leaving
> each and every sections. I would strongly recommend using a lazy scheme
> where the guest writes the desired state into a shared memory page, and
> the host only evaluates that prior to taking a scheduling decision, or
> at least only on real vmexits. We're using such scheme successfully to
> accelerate the fast path of prio-ceiling for pthread mutexes in the
> Xenomai real-time extension.

Yes, a faster scheme was envisioned, but not developed.

      reply	other threads:[~2017-09-26 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-21 11:38 [patch 0/3] KVM KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall support Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-21 11:38 ` [patch 1/3] KVM: x86: add per-vcpu option to set guest vcpu -RT priority Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-21 11:38 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall (host-side) Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-21 13:32   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-09-21 13:49     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-22  1:08       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-22  7:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-22 12:24           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-21 11:38 ` [patch 3/3] x86: kvm guest side support for KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-21 13:36   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-09-21 14:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-22  1:10       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-22 10:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-22 10:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-22 12:33             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-22 12:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-23 10:56                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-23 13:41                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-24 13:05                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-25  2:57                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-25  9:13                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-25 15:12                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-26 22:49                             ` [patch 3/3] x86: kvm guest side support for KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall\ Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-27  9:37                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-28  0:44                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-28  7:22                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-28 21:35                                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-28 21:41                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-29  8:18                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-29 16:40                                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-29 17:05                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-29 20:17                                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-10-02 12:30                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-02 12:48                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-26 23:22                           ` [patch 3/3] x86: kvm guest side support for KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-25 16:20                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-09-22 12:16           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-22 12:31             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-22 12:36               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-22 12:59                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-25  1:52                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-25  8:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-22 12:40               ` [patch 3/3] x86: kvm guest side support for KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall\ Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-22 13:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-25  2:22                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-25  8:58                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-25 10:41                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-25 18:28                       ` Jan Kiszka
2017-09-21 17:45 ` [patch 0/3] KVM KVM_HC_RT_PRIO hypercall support Jan Kiszka
2017-09-22  1:19   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-09-22  6:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-09-26 23:59       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]

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